A lot of job opportunity posts...

Discussion in 'Employment' started by margoatl, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. margoatl

    margoatl LawnSite Member
    Posts: 37

    I'm curious if anyone is having trouble finding reliable employees other than myself. For a weak job market, there sure are a lot of opportunities listed through this site, but I don't see a lot of people looking for work. I have posted not only here but virtually everywhere looking for lawn maintenance crew members and nobody applies! I have to mention that I have been looking for legal citizens who want to work and the starting pay is only $9 - $11 an hour based on experience. Is this too low? There is an opportunity to get a pay increase, but not until you prove yourself. Does anyone know where the people who need a job are located?!:confused: Also, I had heard that if you have listed a job and cannot find a legal citizen to work; that you can hire an illegal immigrant. Is this true? I can't find anything online that talks about this.
    Thanks for your comments...
     
  2. snowman55

    snowman55 LawnSite Member
    from middle
    Posts: 60

    no you can't hire an illegal!! they are here illegally!!!! has nothing to do with wether or not they can work. as far as finding labor that rate seems alittle low but diff areas have diff rates. thank our govt for labor. who in thier right mind wants a job for $35000 a year when they keep getting unemployment extensions!!! you can now collect unemploy for over 2 yrs!!! work a little on the side and you make more than a full time guy. this nanny socialist state we've created is gonna be the end of americas greatness. we are the most prosperous society in the history of the world because hard work and inovation is awarded in a capitalist society. excuse the rant i love America and am saddened by the turn it has taken.
     
  3. BCL Services

    BCL Services LawnSite Member
    Posts: 177

    $11 an hour is a solid wage to start someone out in my opinion. The problem is most people don't want to do labor work outside in the heat. Your choice is usually ex-cons (that can't get any other opportunity) or immigrants. There are a few exceptions out there, but not alot. Most people that are willing to work in this field and have a decent head on their shoulders try to go into business for themselves. I tried too many times to give "legal citizens" a chance but always ended up getting burned in the end. It is always something........call out sick.........car problems...........sorry i forgot to strap down your brand new, now broken edger......ALWAYS SOMETHING!

    I gave up, so I caved in like countless others have and, well I don't hear any of those excuses anymore. Best of luck.
     
  4. Springmeadows

    Springmeadows LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 389

    I have been interested in getting a job and taking advantage of some of these posts, but $9-$11 an hour is not enough to support a family and relocate to another area. The main thing that people tell me is I have too much experience. I guess they want a newbie that don't know anything and don't care....
     
  5. turfrider1020

    turfrider1020 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 295

    i have to say over the past 5 years i have had so much trouble finding people who are worth having around they either dont want to put in the hours or they come in hung over or they are just worthless all together what happened to good work ethic most of the guys who have come through for the past few years were so bad in one way or another i wouldnt even let them wash my car .....

    all i want is a guy who doesnt complain about 35 hours of overtime weekly or can be proffesional out in public(not fighting on the phone with their wife or girlfriend, or just making an ass out of themselve and my company at lunch) no perverts no wanna be thugs you know ....am i asking too much i start my guys at 10 to 11 an hour most of them are worth 3 or 4 where are the good guys
     
  6. chuckny

    chuckny LawnSite Member
    Posts: 8

    Hi guys, new to this site, was looking around and came across this thread.I am not an owner so you can take this for what it's worth. I have seen to many times owners pay guys 10-12/hr (even excellent workers) and would not give them a raise. Mean while Mr owner has to take off early today so that he can get the new custom cover installed on his 40,000 boat. Or needs his employees to cover for him In Oct. so he can go to canada for a hunting/fishing excursion. I say , if you get an employee who shows up when he's supposed to ,does good work, and is trustworthy , then show him that you appreciate him. Let him know why he is getting a raise and I promise you he will work harder for you. Just my opinion
     
  7. BCL Services

    BCL Services LawnSite Member
    Posts: 177

    I couldn't agree with you more about taking care of the quality employees, if you are lucky enough to get them. Raises come with time served a proven reliability.......it is obvious that you get it and your boss should appreciate it. It just sucks that there aren't more out there.
     
  8. turfrider1020

    turfrider1020 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 295

    ok say i have 16 years exp. can run the entire operation including sales customer service hiring firing doing the work ect. what should i make ....oh yeah i am the shiznit....lol
    just curious i now get about 15 an hour truck phone use of any of our equiptment boat and i dont really answer to anyone besides my customers, am i unreasonable for feeling i deserve about 18/20 an hour
     
  9. Springmeadows

    Springmeadows LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 389

    I am an owner and now considering going to just work someone. My market has died here and was thinking I could find someone that would need someone to run a crew or more. The problem they tell me is my experience, because they only want to pay $9 an hour. I always paid my guys at least $15.00 an hour, and I had good guys and appriciated them and told them so. They had workman's comp and were completely legal. I also made money with them. Don't tell me you can't pay more than $9.00 an hour for workers, I am in a low market here and I did it paying almost double that. Be a good employer, and be a good employee. If you're not don't bank on keeping your business or your employees, or your customers.
     
  10. margoatl

    margoatl LawnSite Member
    Posts: 37

    There is a lot of good feedback here. I will say that we start $9-$11 per hour...if that person works hard and is reliable, then they get salary, health insurance, etc. But, you have to prove yourself first. Right now we have three great employees...but, they earned what they are making. I can bring someone new in and by the second week they start to call in sick, or are in jail, the last one filed for Workmans Comp once they found out we were carrying it. Now, you can say I am giving the opportunity to the wrong people, but that is all that is applying here...
     

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