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A Toro that looks like a Dixie Chopper. What can you tell me about it?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by lawnagent, Sep 10, 2003.

  1. lawnagent

    lawnagent LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 529

    Guy want s me to come look at one Friday. It was atrade in for a commercial Dixon. He said its a TORO ZTR that looks all in the world like a red Dixie Chopper? He said it was a hydro drive that had chains between the hydros and wheels. Anyone know what it is or anything about it?
  2. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,940

    Let me guess....Onan engine, 50" cut?

    They were made by DC for Toro/Wheelhorse.

    While a great mower in its time, the old chain drives are dinosaurs compared to todays Z's.

    Thats saying a LOT, because DC's in themselves are dinosaurs! :eek:
  3. lawnagent

    lawnagent LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 529

    Yeah that sound like it may be it. I was not familiar with the engine name when he said it but that sounds like it. How old is old anyway. I could of swore he said it had 40 hours on it. Maybe he said 400? Much like the 2 used grasshoppers, I also have the option to purchase this one on contract. I thought it seemed weird having chains between the wheels and the hydro pumps. But I guess chains can still be fast if they are adjusted right. I mean look at motorcycle and 4 wheeler racing machines.
    By the way, it has a 60" deck.
  4. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,940

    How old.....Pre 1992 for sure, but could go back to the mid 80's.

    Is it a 724 model? Does that ring a bell?

    There are still a few running here and there, but they are expensive to repair, and heavy with maintenance.

    They have 4 chains $75
    2 Eaton Hydrostats $900+
    T-Box ......................$150

    These 3 items are the major players.

    So things can get expensive real quick.

    There are MUCH better options for used ZTR's than these.

    Look like this...[​IMG]
  5. ElephantNest

    ElephantNest LawnSite Bronze Member
    from La.
    Posts: 1,878

    "Commercial Dixon"

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an oxymoron? Like Iraqi Intelligence? Jumbo shrimp? Pretty ugly? Act naturally? Hehe;)
  6. lawnagent

    lawnagent LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 529

    Hey Elephant nest, check out this mower, itll hang with any of em!
    Please dont tell me you are one of the many out there whoare looking at their residential line and comparing them to Exmarks and Scags and such.
  7. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,940


    The BEST commercial rated Dixon is still NOT in the same league as a Lazer, SCAG, Toro, DC, etc. Probably will never be.

    Sure their commercial line has some pretty tough mowers, but like I said, they're in the minor league.
  8. lawnagent

    lawnagent LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 529

    TLS, I definitly do not need a Toro like that so I will forget it. I realize that some of the so called commercial Dixons are not quite up to Exmark. Although the one we Had ( 5000 series )when I worked for a city maintenance crew was put through the same paces as a Scag, Grasshopper and Woods, all owned and used by the city maintenance crew. I can tell ya that the Dixon was used just as much and suffered absolutly no more down time than any of the others. After 2 years it would still mow just as fast as the others. However to anyone, I including myself, I dont think anyone can pass long term judgement on the one in the above link as it is new and we will have to wait and see.
    P.S. where did ya get the pic of the Wheel horse / Toro? Did you used to own one?
  9. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,940

    This one..... [​IMG]

    The specs just don't do it for me.

    Specifications ZTR 7523
    Turning Radius ZERO
    Make Kohler Command Pro
    Horsepower @ 3600 RPM 25
    Cylinders 2
    Displacement cc (cu. in.) 725cc (44 cu. in.)
    Bore & Stroke mm (in.) 83 mm x 67 mm
    (3.27" x 2.64")
    Oil capacity 2 qt.
    Lubrication Full Pressure Lube
    Oil Filter Disposable Canister
    Air Cleaner Paper Element w/foam precleaner
    Ignition Electronic
    Starter 12V. w/ Key & Shift Solenoid
    Electrical System 15 Amp DC Regulated
    Interlock Safety Switch Seat/Traction Drive/Mower
    Battery Capacity 12 V. / CCA-340
    Fuel Tank Capacity 11 Gal.
    Mounting Solid Mount
    Make Hydro Gear
    Type BDP-10A Pump
    Final Drive HGM 15E
    Forward Speed 10 mph
    Park Brake Drum
    Deck Cut Width 60"
    Deck Width (Deflector Retracted) 62.5"
    Overall Deck Width 73.5"
    Number of Blades 3
    Mower Cutting Height Range 1.5" to 5"
    Mower Cutting Positions 10
    Deck Weight 231 lbs.
    Power Unit Weight 886 lbs.
    Construction 10ga. Steel w/ 7ga. Reinforcement
    Spindle 1"
    Hub Cast Iron
    Anti Scalp Wheels Yes
    Steering Control Twin Levers/Swing Out
    Seat Cushion High Density foam
    Seat Cover Cordura
    Seat Springs No
    Beverage Holder No
    Mower Clutch Electric
    Tires-Front 13 x 5.00 x 6
    Tires-Rear 23 x 9.50 x 12
    Homeowner 2 Years
    Commercial 1 Year/400 Hours
    Mulching Kit Yes
    Grass Blower Yes
    Grass Catcher Mounted Solid Container
    Twin Bag Grass Collector No
    Grass Catcher Cart No
    Broom No
    Dethatcher Yes
    Clam Shell Grass Catcher No
    Snow Blower Yes
    Snow Blade Yes
    Wheel Weights/Chains Yes

    Just looking at the front caster forks scares me away. And the ONE YEAR / 400hr warranty is kinda scary! They are saying that after 400hrs, its a crapshoot.

    I'll stick to proven designs, and will often look at UN-Proven designs that LOOK good on paper.
  10. lawnagent

    lawnagent LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 529

    I will agree with you on the 400 hour warranty. But what is scary about the front forks? I thought it looked about like the ones on the Tiger Cub. Ill go to thier website and look.

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