About Scabs

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by LAWNGODFATHER, Jun 29, 2001.

  1. I don't know who would agree with mw but if it weren't for scab you would not be able to get the prices you charge

    scabs are unrelible you are

    scabs do a bad job you do an exalent job

    scabs under bid you you expensive

    scabs go out of bis in a year you are here to stay well most of you


    if it weren't for scab you wouldn't have a biz.!

    scabs help you in the long run and they get the cheapo price shopper you don't want to deal with so leave them alone and they will help you biz. grow be patient and deal with it it only make you get a better price trust me I know I don't mess with low $ any more time is money and money is time

    scabs will help you in the end

    any replies to this thread will be greatfull leave the ignorince out

    and I look back and see that scabs have only helped this biz. out

    and I belive that if we let them go they will only help but make it more profitable for all of us if you agree leave me a message

    I have 3 other co. I advise and their doing vary well
  2. hobbes

    hobbes Banned
    Posts: 78


    Are scabs the same as scrubs?

    scrubs can be as reliable as a legit LCO
    scrubs can do an excellent job
    scrubs do underbid (that's the problem)
    scrubs can be in business for many years.

    THEY JUST HAVE LOW OVERHEAD 'cause the're not operating legally with proper ins. etc.

    I just beat 'em at their own game & lowball the bastards. Better equp., years of exp., dedication. They can't beat my prices by much.
  3. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
    Posts: 10,178

    a question concerning scabs and insurance. how much insurance does one need? well it all depends on what one has to lose, if u have nothing, u have nothing to lose. it is very important to keep overhead to an absolute minimum while building your business, in my opinion of course. if u r starting out and u live at home with very few expenses u can afford to reinvest your profits into your business, on the other hand if u r relying on the money u make to pay bills, and raise a family, u have no choice but to keep your overhead to a bare minimum. i operated for years without insurance, now i have it, but i believe it is up to the individual whether he or she wants to risk not having it. and as far as lowballers, i am finding that the larger "legit" companies r lowballing the crap out of the work. so, as far as opinions are concerned, these "legit" companies are scabs and scrubs.
  4. until seven years ago I didn't have ins

    but I found out ins is more than what some of you think there is liability, work mens comp vehical trailer and more

    haow many of you are realy fully ins

    I am every thing is ins I mean every thing down to the weedeater line anything in stock at the shop in the truck and on the truck is ins

    it has to be this way I have waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too much to lose now
    but my accountant and lawer have it set up so nothing can be lost in suit i am a ghost co.

    but ins if you are your only emplyee all you need is liabilaty ins till you reach 5 employee's after that you need workmens comp. unless you sub contract your emp (diff disc)

    but over head is not much if you own your equip. (no payments) and have no bills but ins gas etc... but normal operating bills

    remember this a premium service is only worth the price you put on it
    good hard working reliable quality sevice can't be done by most scabs or scrubs they are in it for the EASY MONEY this is only easy to the realy experinced or the ones who want to do this job

    when it gets real hot out (like it is getting) the scabs or scubs won't be any where to be found

    leave it to them to make your biz. better
  5. TotalLawn

    TotalLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 118

    I agree with all of the above. I am probably under bid by the BIG LCO's more often that the scrubs. I think it is because I am a little more choosy about the properties that I chose to bid. I don't know how they do it? I feel like I have a competative rate, and on all of the larger bids I submit TrueGreen under bids me. However, I have heard several complaints by some employees at one place they got...so maybe they won't last long there. Large LCO's are no different than scrubs...if they don't do a quality job someone else will (me).
  6. bobbygedd

    bobbygedd LawnSite Fanatic
    from NJ
    Posts: 10,178

    "easy money" scuse me, aint nothin easy about this, especially in 95 degree heat. if there were no scrubs, who then could the customers compare your service to? the fact that there r scrubs makes us look a lot better
  7. TotalLawn

    TotalLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 118

    To submit a bid on most commercial properties is my area you have to have liability ins. All of my equip. is insured and I carry $1,000,000 liability ins.
  8. i didn't mean easy money for us they think its easy till it gets hot and they are GONE

    and yes they make us look better
  9. well brian I cut a lot of 7 mil plus homes

    just in case I carry a 5 mil liabilitly ins.

    you never know when a kid will come out to play when your cuttting and your chute is aimed at the door and your 100 feet away and run over a stick and shoot the kids eye out

    drastick sanerio
  10. TotalLawn

    TotalLawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 118

    I AGREE!! So far I haven't had to use it. Better safe than sorry!!

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