aerate 2 1/2 feet, but need 49 inch gate

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by americanlawn, May 7, 2013.

  1. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
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    Scratching my head (thinking about a 30" stand-on aerator).

    Affective width is a mere 2 1/2 feet. Need at least a 48 inch gate to enter.

    I'll park it right here. Thoughts/suggestions?
     
  2. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    You wanting thoughts on a stand on Larry?
    Maybe wait until that new Turfco unit comes out:)
     
  3. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Less than 1% of my customers have gates . I used to hate aerations until I bought my Exmark. I have a lot of yards larger than 10,000 Sq. Ft. & I am not going to walk behind an aerator on those just as I would not push a spreaderon them. I can't get in every yard with my ride on either, just 99% of them.
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  4. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    A dual hydro WB aerator on a 10k sq ft lawn would not be that difficult, either.
     
  5. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
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    FD -- less than 1% with gates??? Man I wish. You are very fortunate. I also realize the Exmark aerator is well-made. Actually, their main warehouse is now located here in Ankeny, Iowa. (Toro, Exmark, etc)

    DA -- yabut... you're still walkin'. I'm too lazy for that. lol

    30" effective aeration width, plus another 18" = 48" total width of the machine. This equals 9 inches on each side that is not aerating. I realize that's how the design is, but can the 9 inches on each side be reduced??? Maybe there's now way around it? The dealer measured it at an exact 48". Could the Toro/Exmark fit through a 48" gate??? Cuz he said, "No, you need a 49 inch gate". lol Then you have the "driving tines" on the outside which cause turf tear. The freewheeling ones are in the middle. Kinda thought this should be the opposite?? Maybe not possible -- not sure.

    I also have a problem with the low numbers of plugs. There oughta be 50% more plugs imo. Plug depth is certainly not an issue. (Cool thing they got going there)
    We actually picked up a new customer today because a competitor used a Toro stand-on aerator last week & went too deep -- puncturing a sprinkler line, and the company refused to pay for repairs. (weird) Operator error.

    I have heard nothing lately from competitors designing a stand-on aerator. Merely hints from last fall from friends of mine. As always, I wish TURFCO would look into designing a stand-on aerator, but I know they are currently swamped with building T3000's and XT5's (nice position to be in). And if you believe in trade magazine ads regarding Z-Sprays........ I gotta a bridge in south Florida for sale. just sayin'
     
  6. jfoxtrot9

    jfoxtrot9 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Just my thoughts as I read your post American Lawn;

    The tires on the ride-on are a decent size. This is most of the non aerating width on the aerator. It is a heavy machine and including the operator, you need the larger tires to support the weight. There is no way around that.

    I have got my aerator through a (supposedly) 48" gate, although admittedly I havent measured exact width of machine or the gate...

    Once I figured out how to operate this machine, I have no turf tear. Its just like mowing. Make 2 or 3 passes around the diameter, then just go back and forth between them. Lift the tines a the end of the row, zero turn, drop tines, go. This machine is so fast that this is no problem and you will tear no turf this way. You cant make 90 degree turns or bigger on any machine with tines in the ground. This is no different.

    Plug count? C'mon, what other aerator out there has 50% more plugs per sq. inch. Why are you questioning this? Besides, you can do a double pass with this in still less than half the time of any other aerator out there and now have 100% more. You cant be serious.

    Plug depth...You can pretty much have any depth you want. I only use 200-400 psi to get my 3-4" or so desired depth. Any deeper is unnecessary and just slows you down too much. If someone puctured a sprinkler line, it sounds like the sprinkler line wasn't deep enough. Or did you actually see a 6" plug?
     
  7. DA Quality Lawn & YS

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    I would like to see a 6" plug:)
     
  8. RABBITMAN11

    RABBITMAN11 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Who cares what he says. Bottom line its the best aeration machine period. Ill never go back to the old way.
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  9. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
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    Answers:

    a) Ryan tow-behind aerators offer 50% more plugs. (actually more than 50%) Been running 2 of them for nearly 20 years.

    b) Several folks care what I say. Otherwise there would have been no help/responses.

    I also agree with RABBITMAN11. The speed & ease of use makes up for the mere 2 1/2 foot effective pattern.
     

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