I started to read the tread Lawngodfather started. I didn't even waste my time to finish it. I read a little and that was enough. Now this is not to bash or single out any person on here as I like ad respect almost all of you. But I will not just sit here and allow false information to spread around! SOME MULCH SOME COLLECT...WHO CARES!!! But to say mulching leaves kills grass is obsurd!! I know the kind of properties pictured. I have some myself and this is "why" I mulch in the 1st place. Who in there right mind would want to transport a full hopper back to the truck or to a designated compost dump area on the property??? That volume of transporting and handling is far too unproductive for me as a solo. But if you have the manpower to do it and waste that amount of time, plus you get paid for it by the hour, then good for you!!! Just make sure you're not overcharging and if someone takes the account don't come on here crying about it! The truth of dead grass in wooded areas is it happens without proper care period! They clean out a wooded area and do what they should to establish grass. But they seldom spend the money to "maintain" what grass they have. The truth is they just don't want to mow such a large wooded site themselves. Case in point > I took over a similar property that had been consistantly collected all the dang time. Guess what? It had huge huge dead areas under the trees. Every single dripline area of every tree was completely bare. Wow and want to talk thin turf in the transition areas??? A dust eating nightmare job!!! Was it because of collection??? NOOOOO!!!! It was because they didn't apply fertilize, lime, anything and no overseeding either. I guess no organics didn't help. But it wasn't the killer or thinner. Shade and acidic soil was!!! They still don't do what they should and still have bare places. I mulch the whole dang place all the time and it's never looked better since the dieing out began. The thin areas are much thicker and the grass has spread some into those bare areas. The next problem is people with that kind of leaf management needs tend to want to stop things when leaves start to fall and wait for the trees to be bare before paying for one big clean up. By then the damage is done!!! I don't care what you do!!! I let nothing go any longer than 7 days if at all possible. My clients know they are going to "pay" for leaf management and getting it taken care of on a regular basis is better for the lawn and easier on their wallet. So enough of this whizzing contest already!!! I you have to come up with crumby lies to justify way you do it a certain way, rather than post a bunch of crap, consider yourself "self-justified" in how you do things, either way and don't worry about how ol' Joe does it. I'm sure you are convinced of a certain way and he is too!!!