I was just wanting to start a discussion about the many different products out there from different organic liquid ferts to the different types and varieties of compost. I picked up a small garden end container of liquid organic fert that goes on the end of your hose. Not only was I soaked by the end of the project, which was mainly due to the design of the bottle, but I was unexpectedly disappointed once again. This product like most other liquid ferts, but not all such as ICT, was fished base and once I heard this I knew the smell would be a problem. Opening the bottle itself and taking a wiff it smelled minty. But after applying, the mint smell quickly disappated and the wrotten fishy smell took precedence. Bottle goes in the trash. My newest and greatest "bandaid" I guess you could say is a product from the same company that is a chicken litter based fert/compost. This already has a smell of chicken coming from closed bags and cost is about $7.50 per K. Not cheap. But again this is just to get us through the next couple of weeks until we can get something more permanent in place. Composts have been a fun one. I have had compost that was mainly mulch, compost that was full of glass, compost that smelled to hell, and compost that burnt a few lawns. Compost that is sterile and then the next project, my own personally made compost. The problem here is the labor and cost of production involved which this will be answered in trees class next week. Any others have stories or thoughts on products, products that don't work or products that do work? Take it easy and good luck with the organics. I have acknowledged recently that PROPER WATERING is a vital part of organics so don't forget that important step.