Ric, I'm not sure how my customers choosing not to use our grub prevention application makes me a crappy applicator. My job as an applicator/salesman is to inform the customer of the risks and advantages of each application, give them my professional opinion, and then let them take the information I have provided and make an educated decision. Probably 50% of my customers get a grub pre. I have many who have never applied one since the house was built, have never had grubs, or enough of them to do any damage, and probably never will. Should I go and try to force these people into applying a grub pre? IPM says no, that would be the used car salesman. Not everyone drives a BMW, some drive junkers. Those same people only want to budget so much on a lawn and we can get them a pretty good looking lawn for that. If they get grubs, we will catch it before it gets out of control and will kill/pre after that.