Anyone building outdoor kitchens?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by drsogr, Dec 10, 2006.

  1. drsogr

    drsogr LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I am trying to research building outdoor kitchens. Anyone have any experience with this? I am just looking for maybe a website with some ideas. I would like to use something like versa-loc to make the freestanding walls around it and the bases for the cabinets, but I am really unsure on how everything fits together. Most of these setups I have seen also use a gas grill, I am looking at a barbeque/smoker.

    Any help would be great.

    Thanks
     
  2. MowJoeLandscaping

    MowJoeLandscaping LawnSite Member
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    Pass on the verso loc. Build the structure using normal concrete blocks. And then veneer them with either brick or cultrued stone. That way cost can be diverted to design and function rather than to a structured block that only needs to hold up a grill.
     
  3. dcondon

    dcondon LawnSite Silver Member
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    I will see if I can dig up the thread because there was one a while back.
     
  4. drsogr

    drsogr LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I searched before I posted...I didn't see anything.
     
  5. PaperCutter

    PaperCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
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    We were contacted to be installers for a company called Fresco Frames (www.frescoframes.com) They send out flat-packed kits of pre-cut steel studs that you rivet together, cover with cement board, and then apply your cultured stone, tile, stucco, whatever. They say it'll hold up outside of California, and it looks pretty simple to build.
     
  6. hoskm01

    hoskm01 LawnSite Fanatic
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    While considering contracting on my own pool, I found a cool site done by a guy here in the Phoenix area. The link takes you to the first of 3 pages of in depth masonry barbeque building. All the pics are great and good narrative too. Use the links on the right of the page to navigate through all of the pages, the links at the end of the pages dont take you all the way through the barbeque process. After looking through those pages, I would build a bbq this way.

    http://www.howibuiltmyownpool.com/modules.php?name=Construction&phase=bbq_island
     
  7. jamo1911

    jamo1911 LawnSite Member
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    I use an awful lot of Versa-Lok and would not suggest it for a free-standing wall. They don't really have it set up for that. Versa-Lok is great for a backfilled wall, but free standing is different. First - The backs of the block would have to be snapped off, ok no big deal. Second, If you did that you would be just able to make a somewhat straight wall. They all taper and would have to be alternated 180 degrees, but that would count on the blocks being tapered to some sort of percision. And since the blocks are never 100% the same size and such I would assume that they would not make a perfectly straight wall. If you want curves you would have to cut way too many to make money. Instead use Techo-Bloc Calistro and be happy. Straight, curved whatever they rock and to top it off the caps are set up for freestanding as well. They cost more so charge more. They also are much more uniform. Versa is great for a budget minded customer. I would suggest bringing samples to customers and up-selling on materials. Even if you just charge the extra that it costs you (and no one ever does) if it makes your project go faster you made more.
    Jamo
     
  8. PSUturf

    PSUturf LawnSite Senior Member
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    Check with local building inspector about building codes that apply to enclosures for propane or natural gas appliances. There may be specific requirements for venting the grill or the enclosed space within the block wall. The code requirements are in place to prevent a gas build up in case of a leak.
     
  9. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Kosh, at this point where do you stand on building your own pool?
     
  10. cgland

    cgland LawnSite Bronze Member
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    drsogr - I don't agree with mowjoe totally. We typically build MOST of our grill enclosures out of retaining wall block only because we have those wall elements present elsewhere on the job in the form of sitting walls, raised applications, steps, etc. We have also used the technique he spoke of, but not too often. (although I love the look)

    Chris
     

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