Anyone do lawn rolling ?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by mbigred, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. gdguth

    gdguth LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
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    Possibly the worst thing you can do for your lawn. Lets take a big heavy object and and roll it all over grass as it is trying to establish itself from dormancy. Do you see farmers out in there fields after their crop is just popped up and rolling it flat to smooth out the field. As DAQuality Lawns said, NO, NO, No, No, No, No, No. Any lawn company that it promoting this as a service is doing their customer a disservice. It make me mad and upset everytime I see it. It is ok however to roll a lawn when it is seeded to make the seed contact the dirt, but why cause more compaction when most of you guys are already compacting the lawn anyway with your same direction stripes and big z's.
     
  2. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Necessary when getting a hybrid Bermuda table top flat. Top dress, overseed, roll and get a reel mower. Waste of time on low end yards. Kind of hard to tell a customer I'm going to aerate your lawn to reduce compaction, then roll it to make it flat. Might get you a funny look.
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  3. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Have you surveyed your home to see if its settled? Any smart person that builds modular around here puts them on a concrete slab.
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  4. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    That's a poor anonolgy. You must not be very familiar with farming practices around the country. Farmers don't require or need a field to be smooth as a pool table, but farmers do use very expensive tillage tools to smooth out and/or firm their seed beds before planting. Farmers don't "mow" their crops like people do their lawns.

    Don't make a sweeping statement like you did in the second part of the highlighted lines. It may not be right for your immediate area, but it is right for many areas, including mine. Here, frost heave can leave sandy/loamy type soils very rough and lumpy. Rolling them not only helps firm the soil back up to hold the turf in place better, especially where there are any hills that can be affected by run-off, it packs back down the frost heave lines/lumps.
     
  5. gdguth

    gdguth LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
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    Sorry, maybe my anonolgy wasn't the best, I do have a little farming background from my family ties and I know that they use machines called a rolling reel, to smooth the ground, and help crumble the dirt, but I also know that they dont plant in the mud or when it is wet because that causes compaction. That is why they plant when the ground is dry and firm. Not because they need to make it firm. Rolling soft turf is the same a driving a piece of farm machinery over a wet damp ground. It is not a good idea and causes compaction. Obviouslly they don't mow there crops.

    You are right, I don't have sandy soil where I am at, so I guess I really don't know your types. However, if turf pushes up because of frost you dont need to roll it back into the ground in my opinion. We have plenty of frost where I am as well over the winter and i personally think it is just fine as it helps to break soil loose as the frost comes out of the ground. It will naturally firm back up on its own and as you roll it you are just compacting it instead of making it do it own naturally thing.
     
  6. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    In the soil here where I am at, which is semi sandy, the frost is heavier anywhere the soil is also heavier, so we get ridges or humps when the ground freezes. They stay like that unless I/we roll them back down as the frost is leaving the ground, or I can get on it with my roller right after several days of rain (like we've had lately, with 4 more dyas predicted:rolleyes:).
     
  7. jacobsenDW220

    jacobsenDW220 LawnSite Member
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  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    The problem I always had is that the Tractor ruts deeper into the soft ground than the roller corrects for... I use rollers by hand in spots necessary for rolling...
     
  9. birddseedd

    birddseedd LawnSite Silver Member
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    Rent a heavier roller and roll the whole yard flat and your tractor wont sink into the soil anymore.

    might help to do it after a light rain or light sprinkling. maybe someone can confirm this.
     
  10. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    gdguth,,,
    Farmers mow hay, oats and of course,,, wheat,,, all the time...
    here we call those rolling wheels, 'culti-packer' and I really wish they'd make lawnsize cultipackers instead of those stupid smooth rollers...

    For anyone who has watched how those old cultipackers work,,, it worlds of difference in the finished quality... :)
     

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