Im not sure how to explain this, but after talking and dealing with them on several occurances, "weve never done any work though" for them, they seem like a pop up management company. The woman is almost insulting on the phone which claims to be the owner of the company... We bid out banks on the east coast. They sent us one bid form, so we bid over 100 locations for basic maintenance "an average" per location. Since you know, banks can be tiny with non existent landscape or quite large, maybe an acre or two each. We also bid snow removal for several locations in our local two counties. None of which we received, but apparently they never even HAD the snow contract anyway :/ So we bid prices so i think then they could submit bids on their own 15% higher or whatnot ? Now, we submitted landscape maintenance for several counties. They offer us ALL counties which are farthest away , again we bid based on average, so now of course, all the farthest ones are least profitable, so i want more money. Then they take our bid for 4-7k per season for everything included and try to cut them down individually on a excell spread sheet, some were $500, some were $3000, but none anywhere remotely close to our 4-7k. Then their owners call us up, besides their selves that we submitted pricing of $105.00 per lawn visit including edging, trimming etc. They claimed so and so location doesnt even have a lawn! I said great, more money for us for that property then. I said what about xxx location, are you going to pay us $300 for that 3.5 acre pita property or is that still $105, are you angry now? Yesterday, they email us dozens of blank pdf forms.. They now want a bid for EACH location, in 3 counties, again, all the farthest ones away. We have to submit pricing for16 line items EACH , annual costs, taxes, shrub costs, lawn cost, i mean its rediculous for more than one location. First of all we wont drive around for a week and a half to "look" at these locations that are so far away, nor will i submit so many bids when they might not even like the bid on the first location and of course two months after dealing with this company, we still have no work they were "pushing" us to start by nov 1st lol. complete property management, 1724 east 2nd street north wichita, ks Who knows them?