Anyone modify PermaGreens to spray tea?

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Chris Burisek, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    There's a product like that now, but it's pretty expensive. They were called Bio-Granules, but the companies founders keep fighting. I'll try and get a web page tomorrow.
     
  2. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    It is actually (a Tea), and we can tell you exactly what you are putting down on sites. It is meant for transition sites and transition companies, you have been through the learning curve, others have not. The product fills a niche that allows companies to expand their business model and have good to great results.

    Like it or not, if you have 2000 to 8000 customers it is impossible to brew teas and be productive and profitable. period

    I am not saying that brewing or extracting is not a great product, in fact I encourage it. Large customer base, it is impossible to BREW teas
     
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  3. Prolawnservice

    Prolawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
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    I was going to say what about Todd Harrington but then I realised you emphasized Brew, and he uses mostly extract, but does have that number of clients.
     
  4. NattyLawn

    NattyLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Bill never really answers questions, he justifies his products and who he's trying to sell them to. I wasn't bashing his product. His product may be a tea, but not an AACT. It's not impossible to brew teas, but if people want to use PG's, I think we both know it's not going to work. Brewing and extracting were mentioned by Bill. You can make 500-1000 gallons of extract per hour with basic equipment. How is that not feasible?
     
  5. growingdeeprootsorganicly

    growingdeeprootsorganicly LawnSite Senior Member
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    honestly, NCT and AACT is all about the "ACTIVE" biology,as well as the"BROAD" diversity of dormant spores and metabolites/nutrients you are putting down.

    a product that contains "few" dormant spores with questionable viability and does not come from COMPOST should not be called CT in any regard.

    to say a company can not brew or extract a CT with thousands of costumers is bull!

    that angle might work if "your" the company selling the few bottled spores, but the truth
    remains, it can be done, to say it can't is nothing more then a excuse and a sales ploy.


    are we just supposed to take your word for these results when time again you have proven to be full of it? we are still waiting for third party testing reports from anybody at this point,
     
  6. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    I dont want to get started again , but I have gone over the numbers and said this before, 3000 customers at 1/4 acre, thats 750 acres at 40 $ per acre with bills tea, how can you afford not to brew your own tea..............

    dang for 30,000 $ you can put together a really nice brewer,

    that will brew 5000 gallons of tea at a time, and get some one to make the tea for you naked.

    8 months of tea for 240,000$$$$ OMG

    yep I got started.........
     
  7. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    and unless you are going to change pumps and tanks and all on the PG it is maybe better to drag a hose...... how do you spray trees and shrubs with a PG????

    use it to drag the hose.JK LOLOL
     
  8. ICT Bill

    ICT Bill LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Name one company, it certainly isn't yours

    You ask for information and we comply, you know what they say about opinions, everyone has one.
    We stand by our product line, it is a great alternative to brewing and extracting with great to excellent results. The profile of our prduct is much like extraction, dormant and spore form beneficials

    We keep coming to the same place, you have never tried our product line and have no experience to compare it to, period. you keep saying "it doesn't do this and it isn't that" with no experience how can you possibly be critical

    what type of testing would you like SFI ? SFI testing shows that at our recommended dilution ratio our product is much stronger than most "brewed" teas at full strength not diluted. does your compost tea have 12 endo and 4 different ecto species in it? does it have Azotobacter, a free ranging nitrogen fixer. are you applying at roughly 1,000,000 microbes per sq ft

    Please tell me which microorganisms are in your tea product, you can't. You say they are good, prove it. We can
     
  9. treegal1

    treegal1 LawnSite Gold Member
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    sorry just cant afford to do it. I have never said it does not work my only thing is $ to the gallon..........
     
  10. growingdeeprootsorganicly

    growingdeeprootsorganicly LawnSite Senior Member
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    first off i can't count that high LOL second you are going to say that since your known numbers of assassins is better then a REAL CT cause you know the names of a few,LOL<LOL<LOL you crack me up! you dame well know only a small amount are known and named, im not the one trying to sell product so i don't need to name each of the millions and billions of bugs in my TEA"S, what proves my works is results i get,
    do you know what results are???
     

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