Anyone using Q4?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by PLM-1, Sep 3, 2009.

  1. PLM-1

    PLM-1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    My supplier is trying to push Q4 on me. Anyone have any experience with this product? What is your application rate? I am having trouble controlling barnyard grass with Target 6.6 or Acclaim. Dimension pre-emergent didn't seem to help me out this year...:cry:
     
  2. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    we use it, with surfactant of course. it works very well, but at h9ome here am unsure if it is labled for barnyardgrass. check the label
     
  3. SimonCX

    SimonCX LawnSite Senior Member
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    I was told not to use a surfactant because q4 already has some in it, otherwise it's a good product for almost any grassy weeds and nutsedge.
     
  4. Josh.S

    Josh.S LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I use it with a surfactant and without a surfactant. Worked well either way for me. I can kill mostly anything with it.. crabgrass, ect...

    I don't know anything about your barnyard grass though. I think I mixed it at 3 oz per k, but I can't remember.
     
  5. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    I have been smoking barnyard, smooth crabgrass, dallisgrass, tufted lovegrass and some sedges--Green Kyllinga with Target 6. What is the rate you are using and what is the average daytime temp in your area.??
    I am straight 1 oz. per gallon on spot spraying. In the skid, I am mixxing it at 1.5 oz. per K with 2 gallons per K application rate. I am adding an extra quart per 100 gallons of water of Surfac 80/20 because the stuff in Target isn't cutting the mustard on contact!!
    I don't know what everyone else has discovered, but no 2.5 gallon containers have the same consistency of liquid as the next.????????????????? Hell, it is from the same maker isn't it.??
     
  6. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    q4 is 3oz per K. works great, but no control here without a surfactant, it will just run off the target weeds.
     
  7. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    i recently used some trimec plus and re fell in love with that stuff. it smoked everything but the grass, of course it has msma.
     
  8. mngrassguy

    mngrassguy LawnSite Silver Member
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    Q4 is good stuff but expensive. 3-way plus drive works just as good at a lot less expense. Not sure about barnyard grass. jmo
     
  9. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Consistency of the concentrate varies by brand on the MSMA. I have yet to find one that will wet and spread over weeds as is. That is even with fan nozzles applying at 2 gallons per 1000 at 40 PSI. I don't know what it is, I need to add 3 pints nonionic surfactant per 100 to get it to work. Safe to say that the surfactant added to MSMA is not worth beans.
     
  10. tremor

    tremor LawnSite Bronze Member
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