It's absolutly amazing how a thread can get off topic. This was started as LED's in Volt fixtures and went everywhere else. I am a do-it-yourselfer, in large part because in our small town there is a lack of contractors, espicially good reliable contractors. I had a tree blow over, no problem getting a bonded tree service to remove it, a couple of years later some wind damage to some other trees, it was too small of a job to even look, took me three months to get someone, found out by word of mouth. I do not want a fly by night to drop something on my house and run. I was looking for quality at a decent price without having to drive 50-100 miles one way to shop and Volt fit the bill nicely. Everything impresses me as a quality product from light fixtures to transformer to waterproof connectors. Best part was sales to individuals, they do have a way to sign up as a contractor and get better pricing, don't know what that is because I do not qualify Back to LED in volt, Earlier in this thread Volt repliec to either cut off Halogen retaining clips or bend back, that they were elimininting them in future production because of possibilty of using LED emitters. Folks from Illumicare sent me a message saying that they were coming out with a smaller diameter emitter that would be better suited for the fixture I chose, but right now at $36 per emitter, and I would need 19 for my system, I can buy a lot of electricity for the $700 the LED emitters would cost, so I will stick with the Halogen for a while.