Approximate time per square foot for weeding

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by greenchoppers, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. greenchoppers

    greenchoppers LawnSite Member
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    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone here ever came up with an approximate time to weed flower beds based on square footage? For example, 1,000 square feet of flower beds = x amount of time to weed.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. lukemelo216

    lukemelo216 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    there are certainly a lot of factors that play into this, however; if we dont have a solid weed control program at the property, meaning basically performing our service on a weekly basis, we can do anywhere from 1500-2000 per hour depending on amount of weeds, frequency, and the style of the bed.

    Now if were doing a good weed control program on the site, meaning pre-emergent (snapshot) in the spring, weekly spraying (round up), and then spot pulling larger weeds. We can do probably 2500-3000 per hour. Its all dependent on the program.

    Most of our clients we get on the 2nd program. And we will split apps between the year on the snap shot. First one early in the year, and then again in the late summer early fall. Then on a weekly basis we will go around with a back pack sprayer and spray weeds with round up. Any larger weeds, we just pull by hand. We can spot spray about 20k in an hour. With that program weeds are very rarely an issue on a property.
     
  3. greenchoppers

    greenchoppers LawnSite Member
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    How many people to do 1500-2000 per hour? Is this based on actual data or estimate?
     
  4. lukemelo216

    lukemelo216 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    that is my actual data. I know it doesnt sound like a lot. But 2000sqft of beds is actually a decent amount. I was reall suprised initially when we did that, and I ran numerous different runs and came up with that production ratio.
     
  5. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    choppers,
    Is the data you collected biased on using hand power or tool power??
    Is this same data claimed to using one or two hands??
    I am not being arrogant............because If a man is determined to get the weeds out, then with both hands going......bent over on knees, he can work a square foot of area in 2-3 minutes. This is based on soft tissued broadleaf and stem material. Permanent grassy weeds will take double to triple the time.

    Our maintained beds are done weekly by hand and herbicides.
    One hit wonder customers get the line trimmer treatment, herbicides, mulch and go.
    The time spent on removing weeds that have seeded is a waste of time if not on a routine schedule.
     
  6. Agape

    Agape LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Are you serious? you weed with just your hands?
    And you just weed whack the one time customers? caseron takes a while to do its work, during wich time the weeds will break through the mulch.
    I always thought it best to spray the weeds first, then hula hoe (action hoe) and rake.
    If I caught a worker on his knees plucking weeds one by one, I'd go nuts!
     
  7. lukemelo216

    lukemelo216 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I would never just weed whack weeds in beds. Then you have mulch flying at you, and the beds look worst then before. Those prodcution time are my numbers, in which I have documented numerous times. Those are done on places that usually have a pretty good weed control program implemented.

    if we have a lot of grassy weeds, we will just spray them with round up and be done, or if a flower bed is really bad, we wil make a really strong mix of round up and spray, 2 days later go back and all the weeds are nearly dead, so pulling them out will make that easy.

    This is something you really need to bid though just property to property. Especially 1 time jobs or people who only want it done, a couple times a year. Your production rate will shoot way down compared to someone who gets this on a weekly basis
     
  8. kirkmbrown2001

    kirkmbrown2001 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Weeding by Hand:
    Hand weeding shrub beds - beds that are mulched to at least a 2" depth
    Light Growth: 3 Min. per 100 sq. ft
    Moderate Growth: 6 Min. per 100 sq. ft
    Heavy Growth: 9 Min. per 100 sq. ft

    Weeding by Elimination:
    Weeding by Elimination - using a non-selective herbicide sprayed on individual growth within shrub beds that are mulched to at least a 2" depth
    Light Growth: 3 Min. per 1,000 sq. ft
    Moderate Growth: 6 Min. per 1,000 sq. ft
    Heavy Growth: 9 Min. per 1,000 sq. ft
     
  9. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    Agape and Luke,
    I can see where you read into my original post as unprofessional. The omission of raking from the sentence on a one hit customer was forgotten. This would lead anyone to believe that a bed will look like sour apples. In all cases, we still use a line trimmer, hand pull out weeds from the plants, apply glyphosate, pendi, ornamec, or razor pro. Either way with combinations. This is done after the material is cleaned out of course. THEN MULCH!!
    We would hope to obtain a customer from bed cleanouts afterwards........most times we get them. Quite often enough............the customer opts out for a one time a year service.
    Thanks for bringing this out in debate!!!
     
  10. Agape

    Agape LawnSite Bronze Member
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    well, glyphosate is absorbed through the pores in the leaves, and you just whacked off... the leaves. the others you mentioned sound like brand names that I'm un familiar with.
    I'd like to see the beds 3 weeks after you leave as it may be why customers "opt out" (nice way of puting it) for the one time service.

    Please send pics of your work before, after, and 3 weeks after,so I can use them as sales tools against going with "other" companies and the value of a more "Quality oriented" company.:dizzy:
     

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