It seems ever since Scag introduced the TurfRunner they've been in a downward spiral. I've had both a Scag hydro and an Exmark Turf Tracer and the Scag seemed like a dinasaur, pistal grips, smaller tires, bumpy ride.. They just seem to be falling behind in research and design. A shame because my local Scag dealer is awesome. My guys after demoing them also told me not to buy one.