Are you a lowballer???

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by K.Carothers, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. K.Carothers

    K.Carothers LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Can we all agree that a $5 swing with an estimate is normal and not lowballing? If someone estimates a lawn at $40 and you at $35, are you the lowballer or is the other LCO a high baller???

    What if you bid at $30...are you a very low low baller? or just a businessman/women that knows business better than the other Lco???


    kc
     
  2. firefightergw

    firefightergw LawnSite Gold Member
    from Texas
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    Here we go again! :headphones:
     
  3. K.Carothers

    K.Carothers LawnSite Bronze Member
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    NO, not again. It's a business question.

    Can you answer it? What do you think?


    kc
     
  4. jsf343

    jsf343 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    heh, heh, heh, you said it bro.
     
  5. qualitylandscaping

    qualitylandscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I really don't pay attention to what another company charges. I know what my costs are, and about how long the job will take. I price it based on what I want to make hourly. If I'm higher, than someone else is either 1) operating legitimate with a lower overhead or 2) is not legitimate.

    In the end, my price is my price. If I'm $5 under or over another company it doesn't matter, because I'm making what I need to on the job.
     
  6. firefightergw

    firefightergw LawnSite Gold Member
    from Texas
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    If you can make a profit at $30 then I think it makes you a good business person. But I also think that if you are leaving money on the table then it makes you a poor business person. Knowing your market and your cost is everything. The key is to price high enough over your cost to make a reasonable profit and not leave money on the table but to also price low enough to gain market share over the other LCOs in the area.
     
  7. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
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    When I go to look at a yard, dont care if they have 1 or 10 estimates. I look at it and give them my price. I might be the highest,in the middle or the lowest, but the price stands firm. Not saying I have never underestimated but it was not because I was trying to cut someone elses price.
     
  8. lpwhandyman

    lpwhandyman LawnSite Member
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    Can we at least come up with a different name instead of lowballing? I mean it sounds like some gay porn game. There's a new thread for someone to start. I'll start by suggesting UnderCutter. Or maybe Wal*Mart pusher. But I'm soooo tired of hearing about lowballers. Everybody has a different price and you won't get every job. Deal with it.
     
  9. K.Carothers

    K.Carothers LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I guess a true business discussion between the both of you is impossible.

    The point I am trying to make is, where is the line drawn for the cut?

    When you buy a used car= Kelly blue book

    When you cut someone's grass= ???

    It's better to help out other LCO's and improve the image of our industry instead of avoiding the elephant in the room.


    kc
     
  10. jsf343

    jsf343 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I think the meaning of someone who is a lowballer is someone who comes in way under an average price. Yes there is some fluctuation (sp?) in prices
    but when 5 businesses give a bid on a property. 4 are close in price and 1 is way below that is termed lowballer. You and I bid on a residential, say it is a lawn that takes a half hour. I bid $25 to $35 (seems like a reasonable range for most) you come in at $15.00. All I can say is once you factor all your costs in it doesn't seem to reasonable does it? Just my little bit for what its worth. Jeff
     

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