One of the descriptions I have heard about Nate Mullen and others of his caliber, is they are fearless about getting the fixture where it needs to be to get the desired effect. I believe, aside from all the others things we need to know, it is a trait that is necessary in this business in order to take your work to that level we all want. I just had my foreman coring 2 1/2" and 6" holes in irreplaceable Peruvian Travertine to get lights where I wanted them. Now, I am in no way comparing myself to the likes of Nate, Jan, or others. You can see by the pictures Tim just posted that he is aggressive about placement. I am just curious if you ever find yourself becoming 'fearless' about placement?