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Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by DUSTYCEDAR, Jan 7, 2007.


    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Posts: 5,137

  2. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,637

    I haven't used Arena, but I have been using an Allectus combination product. It's called 18-2-5 with Allectus. I had excellent results with it. The lawns I used it on came out of the back side of Summer in top condition. I didn't have a failure on a single lawn and some of these lawns had serious problems with chinches, billy-boys and grubs. I can't say enough good things about this product.


    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Posts: 5,137

    when did u apply it? i couldn't get it in time last year to try it? do u have irrigation or just rely on rain?
    thanks dusty
  4. rider

    rider LawnSite Member
    from ohio
    Posts: 152

    Who carries Allectus?
  5. upidstay

    upidstay LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Posts: 1,341

    Arena is in the same class of chemicals as Imidicloprid (Merit) and works about the same. Supposed to have a bigger window of usage. I don't believe tht it comes as a fertilizer combo, and was told that it won;t be for the near future. Allectus is a Merit/Talstar combo. Comes in a variety of fertilizer analyses, as well as straight liquid and granular. I know Lesco carries it, and I'm sure most of the other distributors do too.
    I haven't used Arena myself, but the trials I've read looked good. About the same as Merit.
  6. ant

    ant LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,442

    Allectus liquid last yr. for me. started july 5 here in south jersey.
  7. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,637

    I started my apps in June and you can get it from your local UAP distributor. I had my customers water the product in. The fact that I was able to get an Allectus combo product and not an Arena combo product, is why I tried the Allectus. Worked great and saved me a lot of money over applying straight Arena and having to go back over the lawn to apply a fertilizer.

  8. tremor

    tremor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,476

    I sell Arena & it won't be available on fertilizer this year.


    Arena (clothianidin) is a new neonicotinoid insecticide (same family as Merit). It has both eradicating & preventive properties. If you sell a new lawn in the spring & discover it has left-over grubs from 2006, you can make ONE application to clean out the existing grubs & get season long control of all insects for the year with that application.

    Dr. Shetlar (OSU) has found that Arena control grubs better than Merit at lower rates.

    We're also seeing much better control of Chinch & lepidoptera.

    Arena moves so fast in ornamentals it's almost scary. I controlled a major Mealy Bug problem last year in 8 days (Acer dissectum). It also translocates faster in conifers than Merit.

    Watch out for certain Alectus+Fertilizer combos. The .18% material delivers only half the Merit that the regular .2% Merit materials do (.1 Merit & .8 Talstar). This is less Merit than the consumer products contain! The Andersons .225% Alectus delivers the correct rate of both Merit & Talstar.

    With Arena you don't need to combine actives or make multiple treatments. Clothianidin works by itself to control a wider range of larger insects for a longer time.
  9. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,637

    That's some really good info there. It sure will be nice when Arena is available as a combo product. After reading what you said, I'm glad I picked the right blend of Allectus (18-2-5 with .225% Allectus).

  10. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,637

    Would you do me a huge favor and start a thread where you elaborate on what qualities you look for in a Summer blend of fert? Not all of my customers opt for the insect-combo fert. In situations like that, where straight fert is applied, what type of analysis would you prefer to use? Would you put this product down at half-rate like a lot guys do, or full-rate? Anything you could share would be greatly appreciated. There are qualities I look for that time of year, but I'd really like to know what you look for? I'm sure a lot of people on here would love to learn more on this topic. Thanks again.


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