Ariens wont shift into neutral!

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by hr214_boy, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. hr214_boy

    hr214_boy LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 8

    I have an Ariens riding mower that has been painted, so I don't have the model number or anything. All I have is picture for you guys. It will not shift into neutral.
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  2. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,024

    It has been 14/15 years since I worked on one of these, I thought if I went to the Gravely/Ariens site and found the parts break-down it might jog my memory.

    But, I couldn't find one chain drive out of all of these, They all have gear cases;

    Ariens Consumer
    Riding Lawn Mowers / Tractors
    RM Rider
    927001-007001 RM728, 7hp Tec., Recoil, 28" Deck
    927002-006001 RM626, 6hp Tec., Recoil, 26" Deck
    927003-000101 RM626, 6hp Tec., Recoil, 26" Deck
    927004-000101 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927005-000101 RM832, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927006-000101 RM832E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927007-000101 RM1032, 10hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927008-000101 RM1032E, 10hp Tec., Electric, 32" Deck
    927009-000101 RM828, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 28" Deck
    927010-000101 RM830, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927011-000101 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927012-000101 RM832, 8hp B&S, Recoil, 32" Deck
    927013-000101 RM832E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927014-000101 RM830, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927015-000101 RM1032, 10hp B&S, Recoil, 32" Deck
    927016-000101 RM1032E, 10hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927017-000101 SRM830, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927018-000101 SRM626, 6hp Tec., Recoil, 26" Deck
    927018-001201 SRM626, 6hp Tec., Recoil, 26" Deck
    927018-002101 SRM626, 6hp Tec., Recoil, 26" Deck
    927020-000101 RM1032, 10hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927020-004501 RM1032, 10hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927020-005501 RM1032, 10hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927021-000101 RM828, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 28" Deck
    927021-002101 RM828, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 28" Deck
    927023-000101 RM1032E, 10hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927023-002801 RM1032E, 10hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927024-000101 RM830, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927024-005501 RM830, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927025-000101 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927025-004001 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927025-008301 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927025-040501 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927026-000101 RM1032, 10hp Tec., Recoil, 32" Deck
    927027-000101 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927027-006001 RM830E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927028-000101 RM1032E, 10hp Tec., Electric, 32" Deck
    927029-000101 RM830E, 8hp Tec., Recoil, 30" Deck
    927030-000101 RM1132E, 11hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927031-000101 RM828E, 8hp Tec., Electric, 28" Deck
    927032-000101 RM1130E, 11hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927033-000101 RM928E, 9hp Kaw., Electric, 28" Deck
    927034-000101 RM1232E, 12hp Kaw., Electric, 32" Deck
    927035-000101 RM1232E, 12hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927036-000101 RM1232E, 12hp Kaw., Electric, 32" Deck
    927037-000101 RM830E, 8hp Tec., Electric, 30" Deck
    927037-003901 RM830E, 8hp Tec., Electric, 30" Deck
    927037-006339 RM830E, 8.5hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927038-000101 RM1230E, 12hp Tec., Electric, 30" Deck
    927039-000101 RM828E, 8hp Tec., Electric, 28" Deck
    927040-000101 RM1232E, 12hp Kaw., Electric, 32" Deck
    927041-000101 RM1232E, 12hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927042-000101 RM928E, 9hp Kaw., Electric, 28" Deck
    927043-000101 RM 1230E 12.5 HP B&S ELECT START 30" MOWER
    927043-001400 RM1230E, 12.5hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927044-000101 RM1128E, 11hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927045-000101 RM828E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927045-000600 RM828E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927046-000101 RM1028E, 10hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927047-000101 RM1132E, 11.5hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927048-000101 RM9028E, 9hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927048-002701 RM8028E, 9hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927049-000101 RM9030E, 9hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927049-002901 RM 8530E 9.0 HP B&S ELECT START 30" MOWER
    927050-000101 RM1232E, 12hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927051-000101 RM1332E, 13hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927052-000101 RM1330E, 13hp B&S, Electric, 30" Deck
    927053-000101 RM9028, 9hp B&S, 28" Deck
    927054-000101 RM9030, 9hp B&S, 30" Deck
    927055-000101 RM1332, 13hp B&S, 32" Deck
    927056-000101 RM1330, 13hp B&S, 30" Deck
    927301-000101 RM8028E, 8hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927302-000101 RM1228E, 12hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927303-000101 RM1232E, 12hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927304-000101 RM1328E, 13hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927305-000101 RM1332E, 13hp B&S, Electric, 32" Deck
    927306-000101 RM9028E, 9hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck
    927307-000101 RM1328, 13hp B&S, 28" Deck
    927308-000101 RM1332, 13hp B&S, 32" Deck
    927310-000101 RM1028E, 10hp B&S, Electric, 28" Deck

    I looked at ALL with the Tecumseh rope and electric start and a few of the Briggs powered rope and electric thinking as old as it is anybody could have swapped engines or stripped electric start parts.

    The only thing that comes to mind is Snapper uses a disc drive set up similar to this. I see your rubber disc IS in the neutral position (over the center hole in the engine disc).

    I have seen these engine disc on Snappers walk down on the crankshaft and cause them to have no neutral (The rubber disc hits the outer edges of the hole in the engine disc), I just can't remember if the Ariens engine disc is adjustable but it's something to check. If it is just slide it up on the crank a little and see if that solves the problem.

    Good Luck
     
  3. hr214_boy

    hr214_boy LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 8

    If the disc is in neutral, how come I can't freely push the mower? I don't think I saw anything to adjust the disc. On the metal rods that connect the shifter to the discs, on both ends are what seem to be adjusting nuts. Ill show a pic of them tomorrow. Maybe it is a snapper? The steering wheel has a Ariens logo in the center of it though. ALSO, on the back of the mower, behind the engine in the 3rd pic, you see the "cylindrical" object sticking up? The lid comes off and there is a spring and a bolt inside. Directly below that spring is the spinning disc. Is this an adjustment?
     
  4. Restrorob

    Restrorob LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,024

    Above is why you can't roll the unit. The rubber disc is not supposed to hit the edges of that hole. That is a Ariens unit, I just couldn't find it for some reason.

    Disregard what I said about the engine disc speaking of Snapper.


    I would say yes, That could be the disc height adjustment, I would try to tighten this bolt inside and see if it raises this disc but just enough to let the rubber disc spin inside the center hole, If you raise it too far it could slip while driving.
     
  5. hr214_boy

    hr214_boy LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Posts: 8

    ok, ill tighten it more tomorrow. I noticed earlier, when tightening, it spins the engine. If you happen to find a diagram on this spring loaded thing, let me know! Thanks.
     

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