ASAP: Need some thoughts on shortening a frame.

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by pghlandscape, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. pghlandscape

    pghlandscape LawnSite Member
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    Im looking for a new truck F-650 possible 750(d-rated) a dealer phoned me on Friday they have a 650 in stock the only thing is the frame is 218" and they said it could be shorten to 158". Is this ok to do? also a dealer called me on a 750 it has a 220 hp cummings, 6sp manuel tranny :(( anyone have a thought on this?
     
  2. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    My brother works for a company that shortens (and lengthens) trucks everyday.

    Trucks like that are made to be shortened.
     
  3. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Why do you need it shorter and it is spelled "cummins". What engine is in the other truck?
     
  4. pghlandscape

    pghlandscape LawnSite Member
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    750 (d-rated)
    Cummins (6.7L) ISB 220 HP @ 2400 RPM, Governed @ 2600 RPM
    Fuller FS-5406A, 6-Speed Manual
    4.88 ratio


    650
    Standard Cab; 6.7L Cummins Engine 240 hp; Diesel; 6 Spd; Spring Suspension; 4.33 Ratio

    Sorry about the spelling
     
  5. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    So I assume your making a single axle dump with a wheelbase that short ?

    Going for a 10 foot box ?

    As for shortening the frame not a problem. They actually don't cut the frame they unbolt the rear axle move it to the desired wheelbase or cab axle measurement and re-drill the spring hanger holes after that is done they lopp off the excess frame past the rear axle.

    It can be done in a couple days depending on how the shop is. They have to make a new driveshaft and shorten the wiring and brake lines. After that its all done.

    If the dealer wants the sale of the truck they will pay for it which should cost about 1000-1200 dollars.

    Frame steel is tough stuff you need a mag drill to properly drill the trucks frame. The process of chopping a section out of a frame usually isn't done.

    Now the question why do you want a F-650 Ford ?
     
  6. pghlandscape

    pghlandscape LawnSite Member
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    i have a 02 650 now and like it (cat engine) what are your thoughts?
     
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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  8. pghlandscape

    pghlandscape LawnSite Member
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    nice truck but i dont want to deal with cdl we have a few drivers
     
  9. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
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    You can derate the truck or find a under gvw truck. Here in B.C. we don't have the CDL law on single axles a regular drivers license is good for any size 2 axle truck any gvw.
     
  10. esnipe8

    esnipe8 LawnSite Senior Member
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    What ever you do, do not buy a Freitliner FL truck. Piece of crap. Ours only had 7k miles before it needed a new clutch. And the way they have the dealer "networks" set up, one deal/service center to cover 350 miles, offers terrible service. IMHO
     

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