At High pressure HUNTER pgp's _________

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by CAPT Stream Rotar, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. jbell36

    jbell36 LawnSite Bronze Member
    from KANSAS
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    have you made your mind up on the rainbird 5000's over the PGP's? our last conversation really got me thinking, i'm highly considering switching to the 5000's
     
  2. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    The Super700 was okay, especially after some design tweaks and nozzle changes. It suffered in comparison to the PGP when the 1.5 gpm nozzles were used. It did have the best low-angle nozzle array, being standard nozzles in a low-trajectory-angle housing.

    It was especially nice to be able to change out s600 heads for the 700's, with the taller replacement head conveniently making up for the original head's being an inch or so below grade level.
     
  3. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    i think I am gonna try the i 20s, with the stainless riser. i really like hunter overall. and do see some of these that are non stainless still running very well with no wiperseal issues. that is the only reason i have to every replace pgps though,
     
  4. jbell36

    jbell36 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    this might be dumb, but i never understood the stainless risers...what is the point? i'm sure there is a good reason, just never knew what it was...and what is the price difference on a stainless i20 vs a regular i20?

    Another point would be competition...most of the competition wouldn't be putting in stainless i20's, prob just a regular PGP or 5000, so chances are they are going to be cheaper
     
  5. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
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    3 things keep me from installing I-20's.

    1, nozzle selection dosnt go low enough.

    2 , they last too long , I don't like doing $70 start ups.

    3 One can only charge so much to replace a rotor head.
     
  6. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    I dont mind doing repairs, but I want high quality heads. I have not even priced the stainless i20 in while. cant even remember. Either way, I am considering either that, or to the 5000. hell, For one reason only, I have even thought about the toro rotors that pop up 5 inches, for better coverage in tall cut lawns. not sure though, i am confident they last very long.... just have a thing for the same brand sticking with hunter. I do also think though that the lower gpm nozzles were really nice to have. one can still get the old nozzles though i believe. if one really wanted. however,the blue nozzles on the pgp give a great pattern, i like it better than the 5000 actually.
     
  7. Wet_Boots

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    One thing that warmed me up to the 5000 series is that I could get spray distance that exceeded the PGP standard nozzles, and matched the original decades-ago PGP red-nozzle distances.
     
  8. Mike Leary

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    If you've got different arcs on the same zones (90s, 180s, etc.), the 5000/5500 with MPR nozzles are the cat's meow :clapping:
     
  9. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    Architects love to specify stainless steel sprinkler heads. That's all the reason you need.
     
  10. jbell36

    jbell36 LawnSite Bronze Member
    from KANSAS
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    yeah the 5" rotor is interesting, i don't understand why 4" is the mainstream rotor...however, they work much better than the 4" sprays...from here on out i'm installing Rain Pro's 6" telescope sprays when a 4" needs to be replaced, did a 30 head swap out last year and they are all still working like a champ...a new system will probably be hunter 6" sprays...most yards our mowing crew mows around 4", within a couple days the grass is already too tall...they should simply stop producing 4" anything, especially once they settle even just a little...i will probably stick with the PGP's especially since they came out with the blue nozzle, AI Inc has a great point, less heads to replace means you aren't making as much money, most the other companies are using that head anyways...also, since most systems have PGP's i wouldn't like to throw in a different head like an I-20, might as well keep it the same, not a huge deal but would keep things simpler...i do keep I-20's on the truck tho so when i do run into an all I-20 system i can keep it the same
     

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