Lazer I was talking to an engineer at Great Dane and he told me that the blades spin at 18000fpm on the 23hp kaw 61" super surfer. Is this the slow speed you were refering to with the super surfer or did they improve the speed since you used it? What do you like about the original surfer? Was it how it handled and cut? They have several original surfers at a dealer near me that are demo's and have only cut grass once or twice. They cost thousands (3-4) less than the supersurfer but the tires are smaller, the dealer said they are slower, you can't change the HOC as easily because the deck does not float, the deck does not look to be reinforced or have rollers and the list of differences goes on.