Avoiding Pool plumbing when digging up junk pavers

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by 4 seasons lawn&land, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    So Sq Ft costs have been beat to death but Ive never really paid attention to them until taking a look just now and Im shocked. How are people affording 15-25 a sq ft? And where is my pricing going wrong?

    2000 sq ft

    Pavers- reuse old pavers

    crusher run and sand 100 tons-2000 with deliv

    geo textile-600

    poly sand-600

    edging/spikes-?

    5 days labor with 2 guys-$7500

    that leaves $23000 for paver and edging?
     
  2. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    what are you paying your guys/hr? or is that with your profit/overhead?
     
  3. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Posts: 3,594

    Thats both profit/ overhead 1500 a day for 2 guys
     
  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    I like the sound of that.

    so whats your total price on the job? are you saying 15/sf is low on a job that size?
    what part of ny are you in? problem down here on the island is the lawn mowing guys are putting down pavers for 8/sf when the brick costs 3/sf!!! its insane.
     
  5. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Posts: 3,594

    Im still way WAY lower than the numbers I see on here. Im at 11 k without pavers when average here is 40000 with pavers. So if my figure included the pavers Id be less than half what most guys are getting.
     
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  6. alldayrj

    alldayrj LawnSite Gold Member
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    I guess thats where time+material pricing trumps square footage pricing. more competitive bids. however, some jobs done on square footage can make tons of cash. aka if the guy who said 40k got the job. i've never seen pavers put down at 25/sf, or even 20 though. if you get 15 around here youre doing great.

    your price works out to 5.5 for labor and materials, without brick. i think thats a little low. I do paver relays (pull old pavers, clean, add sand and re lay) for 3 to 4 a SF. once a customer bought all materials and just wanted me to install, I did that for 5/sf.
     
  7. stebs

    stebs LawnSite Senior Member
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    And for the goodness sakes, make sure you use pressure fittings and not that DWV crap! (you shake your head but thats the only type of fittings that my local hardware store carries!)
     
  8. SVA_Concrete

    SVA_Concrete LawnSite Senior Member
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    You are going to pull 2000sf of pavers, excavate, install stone, compact, lay 2000sf, cut edges, compact and sweep sand.

    All in 5 days with 2 guys???!!!
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  9. BradLewisLawnCare

    BradLewisLawnCare LawnSite Senior Member
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    Sounds like that hgtv show for house flippers. all in 5 days with a budget of just $xxx...
     
  10. AztlanLC

    AztlanLC LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Time also sounds low to me an average 2 man crew can install 100-170 sqf. Of pavers a day including excavation and base materil 6" depending on soil condition, access and many other things.
     

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