Bad Boy Beefing up entire Homeowner Line w/ No Increase!

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by retrodog, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,420

    Just gonna let you Bad Boy revamped their entire lower line from CZT down. They also incorporated the new smooth drive system from the XP on the entire line, improved the E-Brake, etc with no price increase.
    They released the new MZ Magnum 54" 27hp Briggs professional $3499, 48" 26hp Kawasaki for $3899 54" $3999. The magnum has the 2800 serviceable transmissions now!. They have a 42" for 2999 for single 21hp, or 3399 for 22hp kawasaki twin.
    The ZT and CZT have been dramatically changed, and gonna be called elite with some carbon fiber accents. They have the completely separate dual hydro reservoirs like the Outlaw, drives are dramatically smoother, the CZT being the smoothest mower I have ever drove. Have moved the operator back and increased the weight to the rear axle combined with the new drives, really improves the hill stability and waay less tire spin. Decks also all improved offering 48" 54" and 60", the 48 and 54 I got the pleasure of using the prototypes and I must say very smooth cut!
    ZT is gonna have 3100's 48" 27hp Briggs pro for $4499, 60" 27hp Kohler Courage Pro $4999, 48" 26hp Kawa, heck I'll just post the whole price list. Keep in mind these are the cash promo prices and do not include dealer prep set-up and destination (shouldn't have much on the 2 star mowers as they are free if the dealers order right, and dont have to special order...), options, or whatever else your dealer charges you.
    Big mowers all pretty much the same besides a kawa option on the standard outlaw now.... You guys these are massive 4 rail 2x2 11 guage frame and 5 guage decks on Outlaw+, they are not ashamed of the metal on these tanks! 2 year parts and labor warranty with life on frame and deck. Oh and to those who didn't notice the 50" zt and czt used our 48" blades already, really not a loss in inches this year, just the overlap in blades is better now with this design....
    Ask your dealer about purchasing 5 at one time for a special pricing bracket!!

    2013 Bad Boy, Inc Mower Pricing

    Promo Price
    MZ Series
    MZ 42" 21 hp Briggs** $2,999.00
    MZ 42" 726cc Kawasaki FR ** $3,399.00
    MZ Magnum Series
    Magnum 54" 27 hp Briggs Pro ELS** $3,499.00
    Magnum 48" 726 hp Kawasaki FR** $3,899.00
    Magnum 54" 726 Kawasaki FR** $3,999.00
    ZT Series
    ZT 48" 27 hp Briggs Pro ELS** $4,499.00
    ZT 48" 27 hp Kohler Courage Pro** $4,999.00
    ZT 60" 27 hp Kohler Courage Pro** $4,999.00
    ZT 48" 726cc Kawasaki FR** $5,199.00
    ZT 60" 726cc Kawasaki FR** $5,299.00
    CZT Series
    CZT 48" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic** $5,799.00
    CZT 54" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic** $5,899.00
    CZT 60" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic** $5,999.00
    CZT 48" 26 hp Kawasaki FS** $5,999.00
    CZT 54" 26 hp Kawasaki FS** $6,099.00
    CZT 60" 26 hp Kawasaki FS** $6,199.00
    Outlaw Stand On Series
    Outlaw S 48" 30 Briggs Cyclonic $5,799.00
    Outlaw S 54" 30 Briggs Cyclonic $5,899.00
    Outlaw S 48" 26 Kawasaki FS $6,199.00
    Outlaw S 54" 26 Kawasaki FS $6,499.00
    Outlaw Series
    Outlaw 54" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic $6,699.00
    Outlaw 61" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic $6,999.00
    Outlaw 54" 26 Kawasaki FS $6,999.00
    Outlaw 61" 26 Kawasaki FS $7,299.00
    Outlaw 54" 30 hp Kohler Command $7,199.00
    Outlaw 61" 30 hp Kohler Command $7,499.00
    Outlaw Extreme Series
    Outlaw 54" 31 hp Kawasaki FX $7,699.00
    Outlaw 61" 31 hp Kawasaki FX $8,199.00
    Outlaw 72" 31 hp Kawasaki $8,699.00
    Outlaw 61" 36 hp Vanguard $7,999.00
    Outlaw 72" 36 hp Vanguard $8,499.00
    Outlaw 54" 29 hp Kohler EFI $7,999.00
    Outlaw 61" 29 hp Kohler EFI $8,499.00
    Outlaw Xp
    Outlaw 54" 31 hp Kawasaki FX $8,399.00
    Outlaw 61" 31 hp Kawasaki FX $8,699.00
    Outlaw 72" 31 hp Kawasaki FX $9,199.00
    Outlaw 61" 36 hp Vanguard $8,399.00
    Outlaw 72" 36 hp Vanguard $8,799.00
    Diesel Series
    Diesel 61" 28 hp Compact CAT Diesel LC $11,499.00
    Diesel 61" 35 hp CAT Diesel LC $12,999.00
    Diesel 72" 35 hp CAT Diesel LC $13,499.00

    Any questions just hit me up, I love what I do folks if you haven't noticed...lol!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2012
  2. crazyflyboy30

    crazyflyboy30 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Posts: 372

    I would Love to have a Outlaw 61" 30 hp Briggs Cyclonic $6,999.00 it looks like it would be a real Bad Boy for the money.
     
  3. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,420

    TOne of my best sellers this year, we sold way more than expected. Its the best value in the market. Most people bought with the 2.9% for 60 and walked out with a nice mower around $135 a month... most of my customers did get the grammer seat upgrade it makes a huge difference for $350 bucks.
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  4. Brules

    Brules LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 290

    Nice.....hope they update the website soon.
     
  5. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    whoops, mighta been jumping the gun....lol. Its funny with other brands I could lose my dealership for posting the actual selling prices, like its a secret what we are supposed to sell for. You can run ads but cant put the price just say "Call for price". When I am comparing mowers for someone shopping or for someone shopping me on other brands I have to physically call, and even then some say I must come in for price....lol. They are not ashamed of their prices I guess as a company...
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2012
  6. NJDLLC

    NJDLLC LawnSite Member
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    Or it's that prices can be different based on geography and dealers in high cost areas dont want lower prices advertised than they can make money on...
     
  7. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    There is no difference in high cost areas accept shipping into these areas. In the mower industry there is an average percentage markup across the board. From maine to california an equipment dealer averages same percentage. Some badboy dealers charge more that suggested retail and get it, thats their biz, but 90% thats the percentage they get anyways. Take a 31hp kawasaki super z hustler for example. 60" deck msrp is $13199. Who have you ever heard of pay that for a super? Nobody right? Average selling price is around 12% off that nationally. I price mine 12% off retail. There will be small difference between dealers if its aged, drawing interest after a year of sitting etc. If they had one basic price the public could see that posted everywhere and make better descisions that way i think. I cant put the price on any of my advertising because another dealer might be selling a hundred more. I cant put the msrp on anything cause its like a magical made up number that will never bring its price in the market so scare people off. Not picking on hustler, there are 60 brands that do this and the standard in the market, but the parts at their msrp are right in line and we all sell for that (or add to if we dont like markup).
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    Last edited: Dec 7, 2012
  8. NJDLLC

    NJDLLC LawnSite Member
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    It makes sense, and its great that Bad Boy is transparent in that way. But you are forgetting local tax situations, shipping is a big deal depending on the size of the dealership, competition in the area, etc. Prices are easily discoverable by everyone in the game, so for larger companies its not worth the headache of having dealers complain when the consumers (us) are going to know the price anyway. I just don't see that as a sign that the company is any more trustworthy or makes a better product in any way.
     
  9. JCLawn and more

    JCLawn and more LawnSite Fanatic
    from MI
    Posts: 5,206

    hey what do you think of the standers? i am thinking of getting a ferris evolution but i could be persuaded.
     
  10. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    Other thing that makes me mad is volume discount. If a scag dealer sells 50 mowers a year they get a better pricing bracket. So if i picked up scag, my customer could drive an hour away to rockwall and save 5% on their machine. In my eyes as a dealer considering the product, why dont they just let rockwall take care of this entire region and give them a 10% discount to help with shipping. Stupidest decision ever. I am just glad i didnt like the demoes more than what i got cause i would be fussing the whole time...lol
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