Bad Deal

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by rebel2002, Dec 19, 2001.

  1. rebel2002

    rebel2002 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 47

    I am ticked off....just heard from a contract today.... The organiztion i was bidding to had never had a professional proposal before and had wrritten their own contracts. They loved everything I recommended and my wording and format and yes even my price. BUT because John Doe had beeen their they are going to offer the job as I specified to him at my price. This is wrong I even have that the contract is specialized to my company and is not to be duplicated or reproduced for others without my consent. I dont see how they can take my proposal which states cubic yards...seed types application rates and all and tell joe blow here is what we want you to do..... I event went to my attorney and he told me they can take my proposal and use my specs as long as the actual document is not used...I am so ticked off..... I spent 7 hours on the property and meeting with them just to have them turn around and give it to joe blow..... He isnt licensed...insured...or even use commercial equip........What is the world coming to?? Lesson learned...dont try to educate customers as to what you are doing better than the average joe...just tell them "i am a professional and my work wwill reflect that"
     
  2. chicks-dig-lawn-guys

    chicks-dig-lawn-guys LawnSite Member
    Posts: 48

    That Sucks:angry:
     
  3. Welcome to the real business world.

    Just goes to show why not to give specs until they sign contract.

    Praposal/bid = price and descriptions

    Contract = specs and dementions
     
  4. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 4,771

    This is true. I document the specs on my copy and my copy only. Sounds like a bad deal. I wonder if the customer know that this other guy does not have insurance? I would think this would be a huge issue with them and a large advantage for you.
     
  5. It sounds like they gave the job to the old guy there at his prices, walker-talker.
     
  6. Currier

    Currier LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 564

    I would already be half way to the place. Tell them you need to see one thing on your bid as you realized it may have been an error and would cause some sever damage (give no details just seem real concerned)... get the bid in hand. look at it and say "Oh man good thing I caught it..." then leave with your bid, and never look back.
     
  7. LMAO Currier!!!

    I would not loose any sleep over this.

    Mark it as something learned.

    Move on.
     
  8. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 4,771

    What I meant by my last post LGF was, if the work was the same and the prices were the same, wouldn't you as the customer decide to go with the one that was licensed and insured? Then again, no customer of mine has ever asked if I had either.

    MATT
     
  9. Very few of mine have even asked either, even commercial.

    But all commercial get copies of both even if they don't want it.
     
  10. Propdoc

    Propdoc LawnSite Member
    Posts: 48

    I thought that it was almost standard practice for commercial properties to want you to be insured. Do they not understand the risks involved if your not?
     

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