I posted a thread awhile back about a lady that cussed at me when I quoted her 1200-1400 to do her shrub trimming, had not been done in at least 6 years. I rode by her house yesterday and this man who would make olderthandirt seem young was trimming it. I stopped to talk with him since I do mow the ladies yard and he told me he was getting six an hour! His work was excellent to, I could not have done it any better myself. He asked me if I was the one who had quoted her a price and I told him yes. He then asked me what I quoted and I usually dont tell but I did this time and he reared back and said " **** Im working way to cheap and I told him yes you are. He then asked me if I needed any help and I told him yes I could use some on shrubs and I told him I would give him 8 an hour and if he was fast would go more. He told me I would have to come get him since he had no car, could not afford one. I looked at him and grinned and asked him do you know why you dont have a car, you are not charging these cheapskapes what you are worth but he seemed happy with the 6 bucks an hour. Today saw him again and he was not even half way threw yet and had a helper with him. Told me he had earned his 2 days pay of this job of 96 bucks and he would not do it again. Its hard to compete with these folks so I had rather hire him, quote my 45 bucks and hour, pay him 10 and just drop him off and pick him up in the afternoon and not have done a dang thing and made over 30 per hour When will folks learn, dont sale yourself short.