I just heard back about a good size commercial full service contract I bid on. We didn't get the job because we were significantly higher than the current contractor. There wasn't a tremendous amount of mowing about 6.5 acres with some steep ditches, a few berms, and some areas that would be a challenge to get to, but everything was so spread out. They have 6 buildings spread around about a sq mile, with several other places they didn't own in between. I figured about 7.5 to 8 hrs of work for a 3 man crew to mow it and bid it just under $600. That would seem high for 6.5 acres and if it were flat and in one place I could have charged $80. My question is: how do you guys figure out walking/riding time on something like this? These buildings were just close enough that it didn't make sense load up the trailer and move it except for 2 or 3 times, but they still left alot of time to just get to the next place to mow. I guess you'd have to see it to understand. Also they wanted weed control for the gravel parking lots where they kept their 50 or so semi trailers. How do bid something like that? I just guessed on the time to spray it and took a stab at the amount of herbicide I'd need. The parking lots are probably about 40k to 50k sq feet. Obviously not all of that would have to be sprayed, but there were alot of weeds growing up under the trailers. I subbed out the fertilizing and was high on the shrub trimming too probably. I guess if anybody could give some input on bidding stuff like this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.