I always "try" and tell the owner by the job price! But then they get into this thing like: "well how much is that an hour" I hate that! so I just say well your getting a great deal...theres 2 of us working and Id say 40 an hour! so they think 20 per man hour...and sometimes think its a good deal. BUT believe it or not a women thought a complete clean up ,leaves,sticks,all raking,and remulching about 6 beds and around her house for 350. was expensive Im like call the company up the road and check with them if you want..they charge 75. an hour! what it was is I said "plus mulch" I guess she thought Id supply 6-8 yards myself at 30 bucks a yard in my area people want it all for NOTHING!! and want us to take the screwin...I feel like saying " It doesnt say salvation army on my truck does it"