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Bite the hand that feeds you

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Ric, Nov 11, 2001.

  1. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,946

    I am have a hard time trying to name this thread.


    Employee pain


    30 going on 13


    World owe me a living


    you mean I have to work for my money


    Can I borrow .....


    Hello it is November. I have work year round Hello




    I bent over one more time, seems like I am the biggest sucker in town. Sorry I just had to vent my flustration. I try and treat employees good and get it slammed right back in by face. So repeat after me. I will not loan money to employees. I will not except excuses for missed work. I will be more hard nosed I will not loan money to employees. I will not except excuses for missed work I will be more hard nosed I will not loan money to employees. I will not except excuses for missed work. I will be more hard nosed.

    There is no need to reply I just had to vent my flustration. I know we have all been there and done that for that real good guy that needed just a little help to get over on us.
     
  2. kutnkru

    kutnkru LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,662

    You might want to consider deducting the moneys owed you from their hours so you re-coup whats yours if they stick you the first time and you feel they are need of assistance a second.

    You could implement a policy that states if an employee fails to call in sick for work more than three times in a given period that they will have $XX amount deducted (meaning their hours cut back).

    Just something to consider when talking with his/her replacement next season if your done, or later this fall when the workload lessens for you.

    Kris
     
  3. Lanelle

    Lanelle LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,361

    In the case of extreme need (beer money doesn't count) I can understand advancing an employee money against their paycheck. But if it happens more than about twice a year, I'd say no way. People who don't show up for work and don't call in don't need a job with me.
     
  4. Stonehenge

    Stonehenge LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 1,277

    All my peops know I have the expectation of being on time for work. We're usually ready to leave the yard at about 7:03, 3 minutes after start time. If somebody isn't there yet, we leave. Then they either have to catch us on the road and follow us to the site, or they miss work that day.

    If they they do it again within a short timeframe (2 weeks), I just call later that day and tell them that they're services aren't needed.

    Fortunately, only one person was late all year this year, and by only a minute. Unfortunately, that person was me. But fortunately, I have all the keys, so nobody can leave without me!


    BTW, I do the same thing for job interviews. I schedule them to meet me at the yard. If they're 5 minutes late, I close the garages and leave. No sense my wasting anymore time on somebody who already doesn't respect my time.
     
  5. You could implement a policy that states if an employee fails to call in sick for work more than three times in a given period that they will have $XX amount deducted (meaning their hours cut back). You could implement a policy that states if an employee fails to call in sick for work more than three times in a given period that they will have $XX amount deducted (meaning their hours cut back).

    No way, if they do that once they should be heavily reprimanded and the second time handed their walking papers. I don't care who they are or what they mean to the company, there are very few excuses for that type of behavior. My guys know to call in the day before if they are feeling badly and let me know they may not be in and then the morning of they call and say they are or are not coming in.
     
  6. longslawn

    longslawn LawnSite Member
    Posts: 201

    I had to terminate an employee today. I had talked to him about not calling in when he was going to be out. He had been out 5 days and not called in or called at 2:00-3:00 in the afternoon. I should have fired him the second time it happened but I really thought the problem could be fixed. The next time I have this problem I will react quicker. If they don't respect the job then they can work somewhere else!
     
  7. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,020

    me and my biz partner play good cop bad cop. my partner can be a pushover so often i have to lay the beatings:D

    seriously, you get better at it with each incident. and remember that a mistake is one thing. but deliberate rule breaking-:angry:
     
  8. Matthew Morgan

    Matthew Morgan LawnSite Member
    Posts: 45

    I guess I am lucky, my crew foreman is 57 years old and is a retired engineer. He is always EARLY and ready to go. He can and does work me in the dirt most every day out there. I rarely have troubles, almost never. I hope I never do!

    Matthew
     
  9. G.Williams

    G.Williams LawnSite Member
    Posts: 36

    We have had significantly less problems since we hired a majority of hispanic workers.
     
  10. "Loaning money causes amneasia"

    I don't put up with that crap anymore!!!!!

    Put it in the employee hand book.

    "Give an Inch and they take a foot"

    Loose the looser Ric.
     

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