Dana's post got me to thinking and sometimes that's bad, verrrrrry bad. Here's a couple of pictures taken at one of our sites where the complaint was about extremely muddy areas caused by the irrigation system. Although the irrigation system was the direct contributor, the real cause was allowing the system to stay active so late in the season. In mid October I lobbied to turn all our controllers off. Although it was still in the low 70s during the day the night temps were dropping fairly good. All the controllers had been cut back but I noted that some sites, especially those with rough grounds, were starting to develop muddy spots in the low-lying areas. (At this time of the year cutting the controllers back even further really wasn't an option since it takes two of us two days to reprogram 106 controllers.) Boss didn't want to listen to administrators complain that their fields were getting too dry so the controllers stayed on. Finally on November 16th I got the word to shut them down for the season because muddy areas were starting to develop. BTW... These pictures were taken Thursday when the muddy areas were starting to harden up and there was no standing water. It rained fairly good yesterday and now these areas have standing water again.