Well guys, I had to break down and do it. I just went out and bought 2 new Toro proline walkbehinds for a new crew I am adding on in the spring. I think I got a steal on these, let me know what you think... each of them are 52 inch cut 15hp kohler hydro walkbehinds, they have the t bar stearing. I was able to get them from my local dealer for $3200 each!!! They are 2001 models but still brand new and I get a full warranty from Toro, what do you think, a good deal or not? BTW.. they are both floating decks.