Brass ground stakes

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by desert night light, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
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    Are you using the cheap flimsy plastic stakes supplied with some fixtures or are you upgrading to solid brass ones?
     
  2. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    what are you using?
     
  3. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
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    F/X but there plastic is not cheap and flimsy I was referring to unique and others.
     
  4. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    If im not mistaken here (and I have not used unique) but BQL lighting is the same as unique ?

    I have seen the BQL lights but have not used them. The plastic stakes seem ok for an area they probably wont get hit in. I wasnt impressed with the stakes on RSL lights at all.

    I would probably specify something more solid in an area where they could be a problem. I like the heavey bronze stakes that come on the cast fixtures. Just gotta watch em in places area lights might be bumped thats why I upgraded to a heavy duty stake on some new orleans lights we installed.
     
  5. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    When it comes to ground stakes, you guys can keep those skinny bronze, brass or other. I use the Kichler stakes on all brands of fixtures. They are large, wide and very sturdy. I have'nt seen any other stakes that are even close.
     
  6. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    You think the nice stakes that come on the cast bullets are undersized paul ? I cant recall if i have seen a kichler stake yet. I didnt have a problem at all with most of the Cast stakes I used except for one going into loose ground and in a high risk for bump area..
     
  7. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
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    In his eyes

    Non lvlia member= no good, boycott the product and trash it to others
    lvlia member= best thing since sliced bread.

    That's the cult they got going on over there.

    Better not be around when the kool-aide is handed out.
     
  8. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    I case anyone is wondering, Kichler is not the only manufacturer that is a member of the LVLIA. Do I prefer to do business with manufacturers that are members? Absolutely!!!! I do business with companies that prove that they are interested in the well being of the industry in which I make my living and feed my family!

    Here is a basic physics statement. Wider is more stable. The Kichler ground stake is a full inch wider than the others that I have seen. I also like having the gap to feed the wire Through. The others, you have to thread it through a hole.


    Here are the ground stakes used by most manufacturers with the measurements. This is not rocket science.

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  9. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    More stakes. These are the Kichler stakes. This is pretty easy to see.

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  10. desert night light

    desert night light LawnSite Member
    from AZ
    Posts: 215

    brass and bronze is better than plastic more times than not. I'll take the cast stake over the kichler plastic every day of the week. You give a fixture with that long narrow plastic stake a good kick (like the gardeners like to do) and you'll be headed for a call back. Try breaking the cast stake. Good luck. Do you think steve parrott doesn't know what he's doing?
     

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