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Discussion in 'Original Pictures Forum' started by old oak lawn, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. TXNSLighting

    TXNSLighting LawnSite Fanatic
    from DFW, TX
    Posts: 6,462

    How do you figure those are junk trucks?! I wouldnt mind any of them..
  2. oakwdman

    oakwdman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,297

    The brickman branch around here runs virtually all 05+ F series trucks. Oldest I've ever seen couldn't have been older than a '99.

    DLAWNS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,778

    This is my gripe as I have said before...I'm just glad that someone else said it also.
  4. johnnybravo8802

    johnnybravo8802 LawnSite Silver Member
    from Ga.
    Posts: 2,313

    Another member on here stated that they run worn out trucks and I was just stating that that doesn't surprise me. Big companies have a lot of overhead and usually try to squeeze every dollar out of their equipment and pay their workers as little as possible to keep growing-that's been my experience. You can't get as big as Brickman by spending a lot of money.

    DLAWNS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,778

    I wouldn't call their trucks junk, the guys trash the crap out of them, but they are still good trucks.
  6. Barefoot James

    Barefoot James LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 984

    What I have learned form this thread is info is king and the more you have, the more $$ you have. Got to hand it to them they have some major stuff figured out.
  7. Total Grounds Maintenance

    Total Grounds Maintenance LawnSite Member
    Posts: 243

    Man this thread is loooooooooooooonnnnnngggggggggg!

    I don't really have an opinion on Brickman either way. One thing i can tell you is that they did loose their personalized service for customers and the smaller HOA's. This is a good thing as it gives me something to market against. They do some of the mega office parks around here and leave equipment on site as well as a work trailer. I like to bid against the larger operations so I can put it to them like this (yes XXXXXXXX is large, yes they have allot of guys and yes they are the Walmart of the landscape business BUT when there is an issue ever go and stand in line at a Walmart waiting for service?? I have out quoted allot larger companies than me using this line. I offer little things that cost me next to nothing and the bigger guys say "um yeah we got to get back to you on a quote on that" It only takes a few high end customers along with their referrals to get more.

    I am working with a tri state sales manager for a major payroll and accounting firm and have asked him about Brickmans strategy and its a simple one ITS ALL ABOUT PRESENCE and the old They are using me why aren't you sales pitch.
  8. SilverTouch

    SilverTouch LawnSite Member
    Posts: 32

    wow..long thread!!!
  9. Lawn Man Dave

    Lawn Man Dave LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 420

    In every large company you are just a number guy's.......... Southwest airlines for example started pretty small and veryone knew everyone..... now they are big and you are mor or less a number and it is not longer really a family atmosphere.........

    Anyone who complain's about just being a number in a BIG company is out of touch with reality.
  10. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,322

    Very well said dave! And if you really don't want to be a number then go get a education that applies to the company and you will become more then a number. You will become a vice president or a branch manager or a operations manager. The guys out doing the work are replaceable commodities. That "number" attitude just rubs me the wrong way, I can't stand when workers get a attitude that the company "needs" them and can't survive without them. Soon after that they start asking what work are we doing today? And decide if they want to do it or not. And then they find out that I have a list of others that are waiting to replace them.
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