Burlap Fence Install

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by Crash, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. Crash

    Crash LawnSite Member
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    We have a very good customer who wants us to put up a removable burlap fence to protect his arbs from salt damage. He lives on a very busy four lane road and we've already had to replace three arbs since we installed them four years ago. In the winter the salt trucks just flood his road and it's burning out the North West sides of his arbs. He got the township to approve an 8' fence as long as it's removable. It's gonna be 160' long, if we put posts in every 6' that gives us 27 posts. So we figured we'd auger holes and put some kind of sleeve buried in the ground that would be permanent. Then we could slip our 4x4 posts into the sleeves and bolt them together. As far as the burlap goes, i'm hoping we can just pull it tight and staple or nail it to the posts. I'm not sure how that will hold up against the wind though.

    I could really use any feedback you guys may have on how to go about this. Any experiences with this sort of thing or just your two cents would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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  2. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    That's going to be almost 1300 sq ft. of sail area. That's going to be a big wind barrier. The posts should be at least four feet into the ground. With a 4x4" post, you are also going to have to come up with some kind of sturdy covers for the sleeves in the off season. You don't want some kid twisting a foot in there, or it filling up with soil and mulch.

    Are the sleeves going into concrete?

    I have been in the fencing industry for a lot of years before being a contractor. I've never seen a sleeve system for a temporary fence that works properly unless it was on concrete or asphalt, and it was big bucks. When you work it out, post it.

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  3. Oakleaf landscape

    Oakleaf landscape LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm guessing you could put pvc pipes in the ground and have some concrete poured around them? Then to cover the top of the wholes while not in use have some sort of cap that you could screw into them? We had a set up like this at a golf course i worked at...
     
  4. Crash

    Crash LawnSite Member
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    That's exactly what we were thinking. I still have to sort all the bugs out but we should be starting there in the next week or two. I'll post progress picks.
     
  5. Fireguy97

    Fireguy97 LawnSite Senior Member
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    How are you planning to fit 4x4 square posts into round pipe in such a way to keep foreign material out?

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  6. Crash

    Crash LawnSite Member
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    I see your point...but I guess if they fit in there tight at the corners, I don't really care if foreign material gets in the sides. Once the posts are in for the Winter they won't be coming out till Spring. Then I'll just pull out the posts, clean out the sleeves and screw some caps on at ground level and cover them with mulch. We'll see if it works.
     
  7. johnsonslawnmanagement

    johnsonslawnmanagement LawnSite Senior Member
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    Why not use square metal tubing for your sleeves?
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  8. Crash

    Crash LawnSite Member
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    That would make sense I guess. Would have to find the perfect size, so the posts are snug. And I'm not sure on the price, I'd need 27 pieces of square stock, probably what...at least 4' long? I'll have to check on that.
     
  9. P.Services

    P.Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    call CSI geoturf in highland. your making this waaaaaaaaaaaaay more complicated then it needs to be. No concrete, no sleeves. Either wrap each arb individually or use the pre fabed fence they make just for this reason. They use a massive oak post and the wind isnt going to break them, pound them in and yank them out in the spring.
     
  10. Crash

    Crash LawnSite Member
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    Ok, maybe we'll give them a call. The customer wants to go away from wrapping them, we've done that the past couple years, for some reason he doesn't want to keep doing that...maybe for cost reasons, I'm not sure. But I'll see what these guys can do for us.
     

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