Buying Lights Online

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by gibsonsg311, May 12, 2008.

  1. gibsonsg311

    gibsonsg311 LawnSite Member
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    I've been trying to find a website to purchase lights. If anybody knows of any good online stores that would be great. Thanks
     
  2. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    You can find some quality stuff on ebay if you know what you are looking for. I have seen closeouts on Kichler Pro, Unique, nightscaping and Fx. Buyer beware however. If they are on ebay, then the manufacturer has dumped them for a reason. replacement parts may be an issue, and it may have a defect such as a hot socket/shorts and or blowing bulbs etc. All that being said, I have bought pro name brand bulbs, fixtures and tranformers off ebay and have had 95% good luck.

    Atlas supply on ebay/online has 10 guage wire shipped in 500 ft spools for around 60 cents a foot, that is 20 cents cheaper than my supplier right now.

    Ive also got a few ryco trans I've gotten off ebay I am testing in my home and 2 long term customer locations, it's been awhile ( 1 year now? ) and they are going ok. photo-cell went out in one, but put it on an external timer and it is fine. again, buyer beware.
     
  3. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
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    What are you doing about warranty return items if you got it off ebay? You might also want to do a bit more shopping for your wire. There are better deals through real companies.
     
  4. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    I'll name names Chris- multi store chains -I've shopped at Keeling Company, Ewing Irrigation, Upchurch Elecrical Supply, Meeks, National Supply, Grainger, and all other one store local electrical supply brick and mortar companies here, all electrical and irrigation/landscape light supply houses. probaly a dozen or so serving the 400k folks we have here in NWA arkansas. all are at 35-45 cents a foot for 12 and 80-90 for 10. One roll or 30. I buy at lowes for 12ga around 30 cents a foot and 10ga is 74cents. So I buy from atlas on 10 and 12 from Lowes.

    Name some real companies with real phone numbers and I'll make real phone calls or emails. PM me if you have to.
     
  5. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Your profile says you're 18 y.o. and in business 6 years. If that's the truth, then I'd suggest you take the time to get some good training and do a little studying of the subject before you go out and try to sell yourself as a professional illuminator.

    If you're simply looking to buy lights at the lowest prices you can find you won't last long in this business.

    Build up a long-term relationship with a distributor, whether local brick and mortar, or online with somebody like CLL, Terradek or FOLD for example.
     
  6. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
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    Billy, will you PM David the number to Cables Plus. I am on my way to the FOLD seminar, and don't have the number.
     
  7. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
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    There are so many advantages to building a relationship with a good distributor. Our company does not, and will not, allow our products to be sold by Internet-based sellers. They undercut the many types of support that good distributors offer.

    To name a few that most of our distributors offer:

    - Local in-field and over-the-counter technical support by well-trained and knowledgable people
    - Local training events
    - Credit and payment terms
    - Fully stocked inventory for often-times same-day purchasing and pick-up
    - No shipping fees and no hassles with picking up large product orders
    - Many distributors will deliver product to your worksite
    - Many distributors will give you homeowner referrals
    - Many distributors have co-op dollars available for your advertising

    All these types of support are valuable in the long-term success of your business. They help you streamline the ordering, pick-up and payment of your products so you can spend your time selling, designing and installing.

    The few extra dollars you pay for buying through a good distributor are nothing compared to the benefits you receive.
     
  8. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    Here are some real words of wisdom from one of the top pros in the country and you would be well served to listen to them. There is nothing wrong with supplementing some supplies via the web but you need to develop relationships with distributors who can help you when you need it. This may mean that you pay more for your product but it beats the hell out of going out of business after a short stint in this profession. Besides, if you work off of material markup percentages than the more you pay, the more you make.

    Just a thought,
     
  9. extlights

    extlights LawnSite Senior Member
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    We tried to work with Cables Plus and I talked to them a few times but they said that we would have to go through a local supplier. They were supposed to have their sales rep or whoever call us, but never did...even after I called more than a few times. I was going to order 50,000 ft. of 12/2 to start just to see how we liked the wire, but apparently that wasn't a big enough order? If I have to call 3 times to try and buy something from a company and get no response then it's off to the next guy. Our season is too short to deal with poor customer service from our suppliers.....just another reason to get in good with your suppliers...if you do good business with them they will usually bend over backwards to make sure you're happy.
     
  10. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    I had an interesting experience with Cables Plus as well and decided that I did not want to do business with that company. I do by my wire direct from another manufacturer who takes very good care of me. As for my lighting product, I buy most of it through 3 different distributors of which I have a very good relationship.
     

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