Okay, lets talk about other machines out there. Anyone know of this company? C&S turf, they have been making ride on spreaders for ever. I used one back in the 80's. They have a smaller machine called the time machine I look at one a few years back at NEgrows. I really wanted to talk with some end users of the machine. But I got a deal on a used ultra, that I couldn't pass up (thanks Mark!) so I took one year off from thinking about buying new equipment. So anyone use one of these, or know of someone?