Can I overseed St Augustine with Rye?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by outrunjason, Sep 19, 2002.

  1. outrunjason

    outrunjason LawnSite Senior Member
    from dallas
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    I never get the chance to overseed cuase no one wants to do it. But, this year I have some customers that want it done. One of them has St. Augustine.

    So, Can I scalp and overseed St. Augustine with Rye?

    Thanks, Jason
     
  2. rkbrown

    rkbrown LawnSite Senior Member
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  3. Toatlandscape

    Toatlandscape LawnSite Member
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    Here in Florida people overseed with rye all the time. I have never seen any one scalp it though. Just do a good mow and then seed. I really don't understand why it is done here because you can keep it green all winter unless the temperature is severe. I don't know what your weather is like in TX but thought it was similar to FL

    Good luck
     
  4. rkbrown

    rkbrown LawnSite Senior Member
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    Lee:

    The St. Augustine in our area (Houston) goes dormant in the winter. It is not uncommon to have 2-3 freezes at night each winter. I do not know about further south in the Rio Grande valley, but here it goes dormant. So a lot of model homes in new subdivisions will overseed with rye to keep the grounds appealing for prospective new home buyers.
     
  5. TurfGuyTX

    TurfGuyTX LawnSite Senior Member
    from DFW
    Posts: 648

    Yes, you can overseed it. I'd only recommend a perrenial rye. It has a nicer color and doesn't grow as crazy. You risk inconsistant coverage since St. Augustine has alot of thatch. It would be difficult to have a good seed/soil contact. Good luck.
     
  6. TotalLawn

    TotalLawn LawnSite Member
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    I used Rye on a couple of yards last year. I SWORE I'd never do it again!!!! Maybe the perinnal rye was where I went wrong.
     
  7. TurfGuyTX

    TurfGuyTX LawnSite Senior Member
    from DFW
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    Are you saying the perrenial rye was the problem? Usually it's annual rye that causes such thoughts.
     
  8. outrunjason

    outrunjason LawnSite Senior Member
    from dallas
    Posts: 695

    I will be overseeding tomorrow the first lawn ever. I am going to cut the St. Augustine short and then overseed with rye right aftet that. Then water it I guess.

    Thanks, Jason
     
  9. George777

    George777 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Posts: 305

    I would not scalp st. Aug. In fact this time of year I raise the deck to allow photosynthesis. St, Aug spreads by above ground runners, thus scalping may kill it. The only warm season turf I would overseed would be Bermuda.

    if you do overseed you better have a plan for the transition in spring or the turf will look bad.
     
  10. TotalLawn

    TotalLawn LawnSite Member
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    I went wrong by using annual rye.
    The transition in the spring was NOT good at all. The only good part was I was mowing at Christmas!!!
     

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