Can You De-Rate a Trailer in NY to Avoid CDL?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by 4 seasons lawn&land, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    I told my uncle that I have to derate my small tag equipment trailer when I get a dually truck to stay under CDL and he said in NY you cant. That DOT wont look at the registration alone but at the trailer manufacturer plate too and they have to match up. That would be BS if people have to sell thier trailers and buy new ones for this reason. I understand that obviously if you derate anything then you can no longer use it at its full capacity.
     
  2. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    SO what happens when the plate isn't there anymore...

    I don't buy that they have to match up. Why would you be able to/have to state the gvwr on the title/registration application then?

    Anything's possible in NY though. I'll let you know what happens WHEN I get pulled over with my new-old trailer this year. 22,000gvwr, will be reg for 17,000gvwr.
     
  3. mow4cash

    mow4cash LawnSite Member
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    I think you can de-rate. You might have to register it as modified. If you get pulled over only thing that matters is that your not overweight. But that my 2cent.
     
  4. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    what are towing the 22k trailer with? My Cam is 16K and Im 400 lbs under 26k when pulling with my 3/4 ton.
     
  5. wellbuilt

    wellbuilt LawnSite Senior Member
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    I down graded my 12000ld trailer to 10000lb to be under CDL.
    It was working like a charm until i met with my favorite DOT officer .
    He put me out of service and sent me home with out my trailer with a $ 5000 ticket in my pocket on Christmas eve day .

    What makes you a specific GVWR in my area is Tires, Axle WT , hitch rating .
    My trailer was a 12000 lb trailer that was down graded to 10000lb from the manufacture the only difference was the certificate of origin sticker.
    I called the manufactured in pa and told him my problem and for 35 bucks he sent me a certificate of origin sticker for the trailer with my vin number .
    I studied for my CDL christmas eve/ christmas day and the following day and took my written test and passed with 1 wrong on all the sections .
    Three days later i passed the road test .
    Its easy just get the CDL .
    The office let me slide on the ticket since i showed up with the trailer registration in order and a class A CDL in 7 days .

    Park weld you are fine with a lower gvwr , you pay less for the registration .
    John
     
  6. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    2500 ram diesel - 9k GVWR
     
  7. limaint

    limaint LawnSite Member
    from NY NY
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    It's cheaper to pay the fine for being out of class than for being overweight on a de-rated trailer.
     
  8. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    Who said anything about being over weight?
     
  9. limaint

    limaint LawnSite Member
    from NY NY
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    To get the tag trailer under 10K you would have which axles?
     
  10. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    Who was talking about a trailer under 10K?

    4seasons was speaking of registering a trailer currently reg at 16K at a lower weight to accommodate a little larger truck than his 3/4ton

    I was talking about the same situation, just larger numbers, to stay under 26K combined with a trailer over 10K.
     

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