Can You De-Rate a Trailer in NY to Avoid CDL?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by 4 seasons lawn&land, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    I will do it the legal way if there is one. Thats what Im trying to figure out here. If I can get a new VIN plate from Cam then I should be good to go.
     
  2. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    were you actually hauling overweight?
     
  3. wellbuilt

    wellbuilt LawnSite Senior Member
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    You know how it is we are always close no matter what , I hate rolling empty .
    I was lucky i had my bucket in the back of the truck .
    My trailer was at 3100lbs and the EX was 7400. 10,500 but it balanced out to just under 10000lbs on the scale .
    The thing is my new rig is still close 11000lb 3300 14000lb trailer .
    I have not run over a scale yet to check out the weight on the trailer but it pulls good . John
     
  4. mybowtie

    mybowtie LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
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    Then why did u buy a 14k trailer? To derate it?? Sounds like a half assed way to do things.
     
  5. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
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    So all together was it over 26 in actual weight?
     
  6. wellbuilt

    wellbuilt LawnSite Senior Member
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    The actual WT has nothing to do with being over WT .
    The gvwr of the truck is 16,000
    the old trailer was gvwr of 12, 000 = 28000lbs
    trailer Registration was for 10,000 lbs ( downgraded ) 16000lb + 10,000 =26000lbs
    actual WT of truck trailer and EX was around 20000lbs so now , I was under cdl by 6000lbs .
    This is all BS but it is what it is .
    Its easy to get a cdl for your truck and trailer once you get your new truck sit down with your drivers and study the the on line test .
    I studied for 24hrs in a row and took the test on the 4 day .

    You don't need the whole test just the class a trailer , Trailer tie down ,
    and pre test inspection , It mite be 80 questions .
    You guys can take the test one after the other on the same day .
    My guys just read the cdl book and passed the test but they are school smart . I'm not The only problem with having a cdl is all your traffic tickets cost big bucks and there is no tolerance for drinking and driving at all . plus you need a med card from the doctor . John
     
  7. tbi

    tbi LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Posts: 478

    Combined gross GVW over 26k requires a CDL. It doesn't matter what you register it at it's all about what it's tagged at. And yes they do look at the tags.
     
  8. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 1,193

    Don't you mean GVWR?

    Either way. Not necessarily.

    Think about what a F550 pulling a 10k trailer would need.
     

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