I'd prefer not to even bother entering your baited, loaded ideological nightmare. Instead I'll just say this, not all are quite as you describe. Mrs Grassguerilla is both a licensed card carrying CCW as well as a licensed tenured teacher. When I think of the teachers at Sandy Hook its hard to not get choked up thinking of the way some tried to confront the nameless animal that attacked them with no weapon. Given where we are ("gun free schools") staff with sidearms would be a tremendous small step for
Uhhh. I'm further confused. You trash the idea of CC by staff then trumpet the superiority of the long gun and site the LA bank robbery... What does that have to do with this? Point was about carrying on body. We don't need teachers or staff with guns in purses and desk drawers.... Bad idea. That was my point.
Nope. I'm more pro elimination of "gun free zones". I don't think anyone's rights should be suspended at the door
Sure, strategically secured long guns in each building makes perfect sense. But who gets em?
I'd also refer you to Missouri senate bill 656 that approved CC for qualified teachers in Missouri. It's now law. Still awaiting clarification on "qualification requirements". No teacher has to carry. But thankfully some recognize their duty to protect our children when in there care and take it seriously.
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I was Born raised a grew up down the street , Literally jogging distance from sandy hook.
Let's not go into unsung heroes who had to resisted "monsters".
The guy was mentally deranged.
Fairfield hills used to be a mental facility not a scarce few miles as the crow flies from Sandy hook.
Where people like this dude could go. But the government in their wisdom closed it and most other government support mental facilities down.
Just turning the current (1980) at the time and future generations of mental patients out into the public on their own free will under the guise of "freedom".
Freedom.
IT's kinda like the force. There's a light side and a dark side.
You can't hinder one without stifling the other.
A week or so after Sandy hook some dude in china went nuts in a school with butcher knives and actually killed more people than this "monster" did.
I don't think the kid who did this was a monster. I think he needed proper mental treatment and supervision. Something "Freedom" couldn't give him.
Monsters are people who have full free will, and unimpaired make decisions that lead to monstrous acts.
Like If I had chosen to go to sandy hook and do this, because I was bored and needed something to do.
That's monstrous.
You make posts based on your emotions. AS do many in the pro gun/anti gun arguments.
The POINT of a concealed weapon, on the body, is that no one knows it is there
but they know it could be too.
IF you hang signs up in front of the school declaring it a "gun free" zone, then the bad guys KNOW they are NOT there.
Bad guys don't storm schools because they hate children.
They do it because they know it's easy targets who are going to be unarmed.
Schools are gun free zones because people like your wife are the minority, BY FAR.
It's silly to cite the one person you know as being this way or that way, when it's quite obvious that the social paradigm leans like the tower of pisa in the opposite direction.
That's as sound an argument as citing the one guy in 1855 who was black and a slave owner and saying that slavery isn't a racists issue, because of that one guy.
Any one can cite and exception, but the rule is quite the opposite.
The education system in this country is heavily liberal and heavily anti gun
so thinking in that direction isn't going to get you anywhere.
What happens in a liberal environment when they find out you aren't going with their flow (i.e. a teacher who is carrying a gun) and then they are now feeling "uncomfortable around you"?
Strikes, picketing, law suits "the smell of gun oil makes me break out in hives and I missed 5 days of work because of mental anguish and I now need to sue for millions" etc etc.
Not to mention political assassinations and so on.
The teachers in the school will spend more effort and time trying to hate the person they accidentally found out has a gun, than they do educating their students.
There for
.it's just a bad bad idea.
Should their be Long guns at school?
No.
I don't think the second amendment should stop at the door.
I think that if liberal teacher throw a fit because they find out someone IS carrying legally, that they should be made to understand they are violating that individuals constitutional right and any further shenanigans would result in dismissal and barring from any future teaching position, so clam the heck up.
I think that there should be Cops employed as teachers on a rotating scale (yes someone who pulls two paychecks at the particular time), maybe every 6 months to a year the cop switches his/her duty out.
depending on the size of the school that would be how many teacher-officer positions there would be.
Yes they would teach while in uniform.
Yes the funds for the additional teacher salary and training would be funded by the feds.
It think that and individual private armed citizens (wether it be educators or visiting people or whatever) would be enough to prevent that kind of violence from going unchecked at schools (offer presence would serve other things as well)
But it doesn't matter what I think.
Because I KNOW how radically liberal the education system is.
they would be against any and al of that
because among other things
Liberals like to be perpetual victims
so you can't fix bad things in their world, only complain about them.
As far as long guns go, yes they are superior in every way in a gun fight.
is a hand gun on the body, better than one in the desk? Sure.
Is a handgun on the body better than no gun at all? Yes.
Is a handgun on the body better than a long gun within a reasonable distance?
Depends on the circumstances
. Both is always better. But we can't always be living our lives like combat will break out at lunch time.
If I had had a long gun in my truck, in a place like sandy hook, or columbine and I happened to be there.
The killing would have been over before the cops could arrive.
If I had a handgun, I would be very hesitant to return fire with other soft targets around in the hallway.
Handgun mentality is much more likely to "hole up in this room and let the gun have it IF he comes through this door"
With a long gun you can easily pick them out even in a crowd of scrambling victims, from down the hallway under partial cover and concealment using a corner or a doorway; a shot I wouldn't take with confidence with a handgun.
So no, a handgun is not always better than a long gun, and in fact, if I were a teacher and had to work in a school full of people like I know work there, I would keep my gun opinions very quiet and I would keep a rifle in the car.
Because no matter how you conceal a pistol, when working in/around people every single day
someone will eventually notice it.