Case 450c dozer

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by kyle 03, Feb 3, 2008.

  1. kyle 03

    kyle 03 LawnSite Member
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    Hi i am wondering if anyone has experience on a case 450? I would like to know the limitations of the machine. The majority of the work i will be doing will be small work such as finish work or removing the topsoil for a poll building or cutting a driveway here and there. How would an 850d fit into the mix? Would that be too much dozer for smaller projects? Transportation is not an issue. I just need to know if the ajility of the small 450 will be more benificial then the power of the 850? thanks
     
  2. SouthernLandworks

    SouthernLandworks LawnSite Member
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    I think in your situation you would be better off with the 450. The 850 is a good size dozer and I think it will be too much for what you need. The 450 would be able to do the same work as the 850 if you needed it to, It just would take longer, But for the small jobs the size of the 450 will come in handy. Thought about maybe a 550 or 650??
     
  3. kyle 03

    kyle 03 LawnSite Member
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    Thats what i was thinking. The seem to be more in my price range. I am just getting into the dozer market. I was thinking about possibly more bang for your buck on the 850. What should i be looking for on a good 450. I was thinking the C model is what i would like. How does a 450 do cutting a driveway?
     
  4. SouthernLandworks

    SouthernLandworks LawnSite Member
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    How it will do cutting a driveway varies greatly on what type of soil and land you are working with. I think it will do just fine though. There is a very nice '87 model 450C on machinerytrader priced at $21,000. That looks like a very nice machine but maybe a little on the high side as far as the price goes.
     
  5. dozerman21

    dozerman21 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    450's are very capable machines and are great for smaller lots and finish work. Do you have a certain amout that you want to spend? I would suggest going up to a 550. The worst thing with a 450 and some of the older 550's is the blade shims are a pain, and I don't like having the track controls between my legs. The newer style is in front of your left arm pad... much more comfortable especially on a long day. If you go to a 550, the H Series are the most current, and that's when they changed the blade set up. I have a lot of time on small Case dozers, and pushed them pretty hard. I'm currently at around 7,000 hours on my 550H that I use daily.

    The 850's have more grunt, the worst thing is if you get in mud they can bogg down and make you run in low. Too me they're too heavy and big for light grading, but they do push good. We have an 855D loader that we use. At one time we had an 850D dozer, but found it wasn't any quicker at grading most lots, and we didn't really need the extra weight and push power for most jobs. The 450/550 can handle the same work, it just might take a little longer on some jobs. I would suggest the 450/550 for what it sounds like you're going to use yours.
     
  6. kyle 03

    kyle 03 LawnSite Member
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    ok so is the 550 worth the big price difference?
     
  7. Dirt Digger2

    Dirt Digger2 LawnSite Silver Member
    from PA
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    it shouldnt be too big a difference...and yes
     
  8. kyle 03

    kyle 03 LawnSite Member
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    from what i am seeing if you have a 550E and a 450C with the same number of hours and condition of the undercarrage the 550E will be at least 10 grand more.
     
  9. Dirt Digger2

    Dirt Digger2 LawnSite Silver Member
    from PA
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    those that you are finding probably down in the $16K price range are higher hour tractors that are going to need some work. A good reliable dozer for that size will run you probably around $27k. Dozer's are not like tractors, where you can buy a beat up one and put a little money into it and make it nice. Parts for dozer's are expensive, if you see something that low in price usually means its going to need something new in the the undercarriage...whether it be tracks, idlers, or rollers...they are all expensive.
     
  10. dozerman21

    dozerman21 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I guess it really depends on how often you will use the machine. If it's going to be on a regular basis, I'd go with a later 550 with a turbo engine. If you're only buying this machine to use once every so often and you don't want to spend around 30K, then yeah go with the 450.

    Like Dirt said, keep in mind the U/C and replacement costs. At least with that, you can see and hear the wear. I'd be more worried about internal things like the tranny if you're considering a high hour machine. If you could find a lower hour 450C, that might be your best bet.
     

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