Cat 247 B2 ??

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Back To Good, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. Back To Good

    Back To Good LawnSite Member
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    Hi everyone.
    I am in the market for a new skid or CTL.
    I was starting to lean towards the Case 430 or 440 based on research and
    cost but the local Cat dealer came out with a 247 B2 MTL for just under 30k!
    That's just about the cost of a Case 440 wheel machine.
    The undercarriage stories scare me but maybe these new B2 improvements
    have fixed some of the problems.
    I tested the 247 today for about 15 minutes. It was very smooooth.
    Maybe a bit under powered. Its hard to say with that short of time in the seat.
    I also tried out an ASV PT60. I wanted to like it but I really didn't.
    Very nice looking machine.
    The response time was sluggish, and it had a cheesy feel.
    The foot throttle design is horrible. It was sticking.
    It did not have the smooth tight feel of the Cat.
    I will go try out a Case wheel machine tomorrow.
    I would like to here some feedback on the 247 B2 undercarriage.
    Thanks.
     
  2. mrsops

    mrsops LawnSite Silver Member
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    back to good i here some real horror stories about cat track machines as well but i here they did make improvements on them but we shall see.. case i have no idea about. asv i didnt like. i currently own a bobcat t190 and its been holding up just fine for me..
     
  3. cat2

    cat2 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Mi
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    I think you will like the case. I have a bobcat and john deere and they are both holding up very well
     
  4. Back To Good

    Back To Good LawnSite Member
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    I should stop by Bobcat also. Last time I ran one it had foot controls
    that drove me nuts.
    To many years running loaders. I could not get the foot thing down.
    Can you get pilot controls and foot throttle with a bobcat now?
    I don't like running equipment with a fixed throttle if I don't have to.
     
  5. mrsops

    mrsops LawnSite Silver Member
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    yeah you can get pilots now with a bobcat
     
  6. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    Back to Good, PM me, as I own one and I've got a lot of good things to say!
     
  7. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    CASE has just released its new series of machines called the Series 3. I doubt you will be demoing one of those but you might. Pilots controls are an option on all CASE machines. If they have one with ride control you need to try it. Best thing to happen to a skid steer. The 440 would be the one to demo. Very powerful. CASE has some incentives right now as they are trying to clear machines out for the Series 3's. If you want tracks the 440CT is an animal (eats CATs for lunch).
     
  8. Back To Good

    Back To Good LawnSite Member
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    ksss, There does not look to be much difference between the 430 and 440
    on paper.
    Is the 440 worth the $3000 price difference?
     
  9. Back To Good

    Back To Good LawnSite Member
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    Sorry Bobcat Ron. This is my first day posting and I guess I don't know what
    "PM me" means. Personal message??
    Tell me how.
     
  10. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    On the current machines there is considerable difference in the engines. The 430 is 74 hp nonturboed with 2000 pounds of lift. These are solid machines. My brother has one and is a fine ma chine. The 440 is 83 hp turboed with 2200 pounds of lift. The torque of this motor is without equal in this size machine. The reason I suggest demoing this one is you can see what it can do. If it is more power than you need you can step down to the 430. The added resale of the 440 will give back much of the price difference between the two.
     

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