Cat259D/289D vs Bobcat T590/T650

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by ShadowCat, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. ccstrebe

    ccstrebe LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 576

    Don't waste your money on a dozer blade. Been there, done that.
     
  2. Steiner

    Steiner LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 408

    Here are a few sage bits of wisdom I have garnered by reading lawn site threads on this topic everyday for almost 7 years. I also used much of this wisdom and I am very happy with my skid.

    1. Demo the machines, but really look at dealer support first. Buying on dial position for the radio, will piss you off the first time your machine goes down and you need support fast.

    2. Rent machines and build up a feeling for what size machine suits your operation and what attachments are essential. Don't buy any attachments that you don't use often. Rent them! Nothing pisses me off more than looking at all those 2-6,000 dollar attachments I had to have, and they sit in my yard!

    3. Try to buy a lightly used machine to put thousands of dollars into your pocket. I saved thousands of dollars over a new machine and I love thinking of how large of a wad of hundreds that bulge would be in my pocket. Plus every time I get a ding or scratch on the machine I just think, "more character." If I scratched a new machine I would weep.

    Here it is in a nutshell from all of the great wisdom on this site: (PS I wish more people actually took the advice all the older guys on here gave, I think I might have been the only one listening :)

    " Rent to find your sweet spot, Demo to find your perfect sweetheart, then find a well cared for just broken in sweetheart, buy it and save enough to take your wife to dinner, in France." Laugh all the way to the bank. I do!

    -Chris
     
  3. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 32

    I can see this already... Bobcat talked to me, walked around, sat in machines, gave me a quote... and haven't heard back from since. I have had many phone calls and emails with the Cat rep. It does mean something...
     
  4. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 32

    So do you think the bucket is just as good as far as end result? Any difference between the dozer blade and an angle blade? Both worthless?
     
  5. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 32

    I like your thinking. I haven't seen many ctl's with less than 2,000 hours in my area, which I guess is a good sign that the economy is keeping them busy and not being sold or traded in to get out of the business? I'll ask the Cat dealer when I demo Friday regarding used machines available, the Bobcat dealer is always very limited.
     
  6. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,541

    Dozer blade Is just a blade no movement Now a 6 way blade is what you want
    Many things you can use a 6 way blade grade rock driveways Level dirt piles

    Here is one thing you might think about. Are you going get in the snow plowing not sure if you live in area that has snow If so
    you buy a tire skid and buy tracks for it
    Ones you looking at will push snow But even with being a 2 speed they are slow
    Like my Skid first gear is the same speed as the ones you posted when they are in 2nd

    Something think about
     
  7. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 32

    I am in Florida, so no snow plowing... plenty of sand plowing though. :) That is why I think I will go with wide tracks no matter which machine I choose. Sinking in sugar sand is something I would prefer to avoid.
     
  8. Snyder's Lawn Inc

    Snyder's Lawn Inc LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Ok you didn't have that on you profile

    Wasn't sure where you was from Sorry I'll shut up
     
  9. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Posts: 32

    No, please keep giving me ideas and thoughts, it is very helpful. I'll update my profile, didnt even think to do that!
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  10. Junior M

    Junior M LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 13,539

    I think you need to get a machine and use it before you go spending thousands on a dozer blade.

    I bought my machine and just had to have a a 4n1 bucket and a grapple. I sold the 4n1. It was good to have but I never used it. I still have the grapple but I've only used it twice. No where near enough to pay for itself..

    I've never used a dozer blade but I don't see any real purpose to them other than something else to tote around and take care of.
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