Chainsaw...30cc vs 40cc

Discussion in 'Tree Service Equipment' started by getdown, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. getdown

    getdown LawnSite Senior Member
    from Florida
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    Hey Guys,

    Already have a 30cc (Stihl MS 192)...I beat the hell out of it clearing brazilian pepper and vines and what not...and the blade dulls fast as hell...I replace it way too often (or have to sharpen it).

    Now, I've got a gig to cut down some larger Brazilian Peppers, so to make my life easier, I was going to buy something a bit hardier...I have a $100 gift card to HD (I know some of you are going to call me names for not supporting a small dealer and using my $ at HD).

    I was comfortable throwing $200 on top of my gift card to pick up an echo-CS400...but I wanted to know...Is the difference in a 40cc saw that much greater than the 30cc? Or will the CS400 w/16" blade be that much more effective than an ms192 with a 14" and have that much more power and ease cutting?
     
  2. kawakx125

    kawakx125 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    not sure it's really gonna do much for your blade dulling problem, more power is just gonna keep it from bogging down as much
     
  3. GrassGuerilla

    GrassGuerilla LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Actually out of the box it will be worse in two ways.

    1) new 2-strokes (including echo) are set way too lean from the factory. It MUST be adjusted properly or it won't last long at all. HD doesn't do it.

    2) the Stihl brand chain is the best, hardest steel chain sold today. The Oregon chain on the echo is good, but not as good as stihl.

    If your going to use a chainsaw, learn to sharpen a chain. Only takes a few minutes. The best technique I've found is to never let it get dull. Each time it needs fuel, just give each tooth two strokes with a file. Key being to try to match the factory angles. Every 3-4 sharpenings, hit the rakers. Would you cut grass with dull blades?

    Alternately, buy 5 or 6 loops of chain and change as they start throwing dust instead of chips. And let your dealer sharpen them for you.

    The high dollar carbide tipped chains are not cost effective. At $150 or so they do not last 10 times longer, and are MUCH harder to sharpen.

    The Echo CS400 is a great little saw. Better than the 192 in my opinion. And the cs400 can be had for $200 on e-pray. HD is only for emergencies.
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  4. jones68

    jones68 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Stihl ms 362
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  5. GrassGuerilla

    GrassGuerilla LawnSite Bronze Member
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    While no doubt a great saw, how's that going to help sharpen his chain? And a 60cc saw for light duty stuff huh? Your a manly man.
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  6. lawnkingforever

    lawnkingforever LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I picked up the ms211 last spring. All the saw I need as I only use it for cutting up wood for campfires and an occasional small job for a customer. Very lightweight and powerful. When I head to camp with my sister's family my brother in law always bring his farmboss for cutting wood. Since I bought the ms211 his saw sits unless we are taking down a big tree. Even my brother in law grabs my saw to use as it is much lighter.
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  7. jones68

    jones68 LawnSite Senior Member
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    grass... i did not say it would help with the chain the op was asking about bigger saws. "...Is the difference in a 40cc saw that much greater than the 30cc?" i use a tiny saw for pruning but use the 362 for anything substaintal. it is a great saw it also runs a 3/8" chain which will wear far better than a smaller one. meaning they will take more sharpenings before the chain is garbage. the 362 is a big saw but it does what i need it to do and more i have an 18" bar on mine.
     
  8. GrassGuerilla

    GrassGuerilla LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Sorry Jones, that makes more sense. I was pissy when I posted that. The misses backed into my truck this morning, then It was "my fault".

    And agreed, no since in such a small jump. If you need a bigger saw to for 50-70cc, not just 10 more. 40cc is pretty small for felling work.
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  9. lawnpro724

    lawnpro724 LawnSite Silver Member
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    40cc is the smallest regular duty chainsaw we use. The only use for anything smaller would be to use it in a bucket truck for trimming trees. Our regular use or main chain saws are 50cc with 20" bar w/oregon chains and they handle pretty much everything except cutting up railroad ties.
     
  10. GrassGuerilla

    GrassGuerilla LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Edit: posted in wrong forum.
     

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