Cheapest and most effective

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by stressed, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Very well as long as it is applied correctly. I do mine through a boom with solid cone nozzles running at 300 PSI and 3 gallons per M. Aside from being cheaper, I prefer liquids for precision of coverage and placement, as well as rapid results. The only time I do not mind granules is for spot treatment of fire ant nests.
     
  2. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yo

    A few years ago I did a cost study of every insecticide labelled for turf.

    in order of less expensive per thousand sq feet at the price two years ago are the following

    Cyper TC $ 0.30

    Permethrin Pro $ $ 0.42

    Demon TC $ 0.44

    Talstar one $ 0.94


    Please note the TC stands for termite concentrate but these produces are labelled for turf. With the constant changing prices I have not update this information. Prices are changing too quick. My list is much bigger but these are the low cost 4.
     
  3. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Bifen XTS @ high rate of 0.15 oz works out to be $ 0.19 per thousand sq ft including tax. This is what I use as my broad labelled surface insecticide. When I did the cost study this was not on the market as a generic.
     
  4. Shades of Green LService

    Shades of Green LService LawnSite Bronze Member
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  5. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
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    granular last a lot longer
     
  6. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
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    I have gotta ask, you do alot of liquid, but what about the comp down your way? I mean you are not doing 500k plus a day dragging a hose.
     
  7. whoopassonthebluegrass

    whoopassonthebluegrass LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Is it encapsulated or coated or something?
     
  8. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    Good luck finding anyone who broadcast sprays anything on turf besides golf course superintendents. I am the only one outside of the golf courses running a boom or power sprayer. Everyone else does all granules and spot sprays weeds. Which does not work very well here. But if the companies are not willing to pay certified applicators more than $10 an hour, then what happens normally is the boss has the license and he sends out illiterate workers to do the $hitty unprofessional work I see all over this state. The most those workers understand is "how many ounces per gallon". It is my understanding that many chemicals are not allowed into Hawaii because of this situation. The DOA fears misuse and pollution caused by bad applications. Compass, Dismiss and Drive are the 3 I can think of, that are banned in Hawaii.

    Most of the lawns I treat are under 10,000 sq ft, so there is no excuse for high speed and half-azzed applications. I have no problems doing them with a walking boom powered by a gas engine backpack. Most turf areas over that size are unmaintained rough areas taken over by weeds. Which is a shame, given the value of land here. However, it can be expensive to maintain green, weed free turf here. My $1200-16000 per year per 1000 sq ft is not an unreasonable figure considering what needs to be done. Pulling a hose can be very different from what you are thinking. Try pulling a hose 100 ft upstairs or downstairs to the lawn. The lawns here are different too. Most of the lawns I maintain are bermuda or zoysia cut at less than 3/4". Granules will just get picked up at the next mowing unless you are spreading greensgrade fertilizers at $40-50 a bag. I also deal with mean infestations of fall armyworm and sod webworm. Nothing beats a correctly applied spray, because my clients and I want them dead yesterday. Of course you know my position on chinch bug. Many of the problems controlling this pest center around inadequate application and failure to rotate classes of active ingredient. Lastly, if my clients wanted to see granules all over the place, they would do business with the "landscapers" or unlicensed gardeners. My clients pay me to keep their lawns and landscapes healthier and greener than the companies they used to do business with.
     
  9. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    IN GENERAL Liquid is less expensive per thousand Sq Ft and has a Faster response

    Granules have a slower response time but longer Residual.

    Labor to apply each can vary from the size of the area to be treated and equipment used. Ride on spreaders on large areas are very time saving. Liquid application on small areas is less labor than granules. Application equipment can vary in cost widely, But a general rules is the more expensive equipment is less labor and time in both cases.

    Choosing Equipment and products that best fit your market is what the game is all about.
     
  10. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
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    Do you have any pics of your bpack and boom set up?
     

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