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chemical safety ???

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by bluemoon, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. bluemoon

    bluemoon LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Posts: 114

    Need some advice, got a friend whom just went to work for a company that sprays railroad right of ways, crossings and etc.
    They issued no safety apparel , not even a mask. This guy basically sprays each side of railroad , on each side of road. They walk and spray 300ft in length and about 30ft wide.
    He and his co-workers wear leather boots, blue jeans, and any kind of shirt. Basically no chemical protection at all.
    I think this is stupid, am I wrong? He is concerned, but not sure where to get answers on how to protect himself.
    Any advice would be really helpful.
    Thanks,
    Bluemoon
     
  2. l1011100

    l1011100 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    If you know what chemical they spray I can look it up in the hazard index at my other job and let you know what is required for protection
     
  3. bluemoon

    bluemoon LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Posts: 114

    1011100,
    Not sure what he is using, when I find out will post . I do know most of the time it is for weed control. The railroad wants grass, so they don't have wash outs, they want weed control for visibility at road crossings.
    I am thinking in general he should be wearing a mask, maybe chemical/rubber boots and some type of protection for his clothes.
    Thanks for any help.
    bluemoon
     
  4. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,697

    The company he works for must provide MSDS on all chemicals to all the employees. MSDS will tell what personal protective equipment is needed. The company must provide the personal protective equipment (PPE).
     
  5. BCSteel

    BCSteel LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 876

    Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen to me.
     
  6. bluemoon

    bluemoon LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Posts: 114

    grassmechanic,
    What one is suppose to do and what one does is many times two different things.
    This company doesn't do what they are suppose to do.
    My question is , wouldn't it be wise to protect oneself? If so , what measures should one do?
    Also this company is owned by lawyers, and they aren't raising the issue of safety.
    I don't want to get into what the company should do or why does my friend stay there. All I want is some advice or point to a website for ways to reduce or eliminate chemical exposure.
    Thanks,
    bluemoon
     
  7. l1011100

    l1011100 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 96

    Here is a page right out of the MSDS sheets for Roundup, Im sure the stuff the railroad uses if much stronger but this should give you an idea. If he is going to be spraying this stuff all day and might breath the mist he would need a resperator with cartrages for organic materials, gloves, and possibly a face shield.


    7. HANDLING AND STORAGE
    GENERAL PROCEDURES: Store this product only in its original container in a
    secured storage area. Protect container from freezing.
    8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS / PERSONAL PROTECTION
    ENGINEERING CONTROLS: No special ventilation is necessary.
    PERSONAL PROTECTION
    EYES AND FACE: Workers handling the concentrate should wear chemical goggles to
    6/26/01 http://www.roundup.com/product_info/msds/msds7072super.htm
    prevent eye contact during mixing/transfer operations or other activities where there is
    potential for eye contact with the concentrated product. The wearing of goggles is not
    required during use of this product in accordance with label instruction.
    SKIN: Although this product does not present a significant skin concern, minimize skin
    contamination by following good industrial practice. Wearing protective gloves is
    recommended. Wash hands and contaminated skin throughly after handling.
    RESPIRATORY: For Handling the Concentrated Product: Avoid breathing vapor or mist.
    This product concentrate is not likely to pose an airborne exposure concern during
    manufacture or packaging. In the event of abnormal exposure conditions, use NIOSH
    approved equipment. Air purifying elements for protection against orgainc vapor and
    dust/mist approved for pesticiedes is recommended. Full facepiece replaces the need for
    chemical goggles. Observe respiratory use limitations specified by the manufacturers.
    For Use of Product in accordance with label instructions: Respirators are not required for
    use of this product in accordance with label instructions.
     
  8. Grassmechanic

    Grassmechanic LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,697

    Bluemoon - ALL companies must abide by OSHA laws. A company run by lawyers knows this all too well. One phone call would shut them down. But to answer your question the minimum PPE would be long pants and shirts, gloves, and approved footwear.

    PS. I wished I was working for that company - I'd be a millionaire in no time!
     
  9. TSM

    TSM LawnSite Senior Member
    from MA
    Posts: 711

    shouldn't we know what he's spraying before talk about law suits???

    Assuming he fills his truck, back-pak, or whatever he is using all he needs to do is read the label.

    It aint rocket science
     
  10. James Cormier

    James Cormier LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Ma
    Posts: 1,218


    This is misleading because its for the concentrate, not the end use product, round up is mixed at a very low with a high water volume.

    This dosnt mean its safe, but come on now, I think you should know what your talking about before you post like this.
     

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