Class 5 Trucks

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by tyler_mott85, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. 93Chevy

    93Chevy LawnSite Fanatic
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    LOL, who cares if he's an arrogant prick? He's right. He's the only member on this site that gives consistently correct answers about CDL and DOT requirements. State Troopers and Trailer Dealers are not reliable sources of DOT information. State Troopers think they know all the DOT laws and the Trailer Dealers blow smoke. And don't bother calling the DOT office because you can't get a straight answer from a bureaucrat. You just have to read the laws yourself and/or talk to somebody who knows the laws better than yourself.
     
  2. KS_Grasscutter

    KS_Grasscutter LawnSite Gold Member
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    Shouldn't you base your information on what the State Trooper says, since he'll be the guy writing you tickets? What's right or wrong doesn't matter as much as what will get you ticketed for, does it?
     
  3. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    WRONG.

    (Short enough answer for ya?)
     
  4. 93Chevy

    93Chevy LawnSite Fanatic
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    State Troopers enforce the law, they don't write it or interpret it. I'm not knocking state troopers by any means, but there's tons of tiny little laws (like you can run a 26k truck and 10k trailer and not need a Class A). It's hard to be 100% current on every little law. My buddy has had to deal with a couple cops who were incorrect in the past, dealing both with emissions regulations and proper equipment strapping. Not CDL per se, but my point is the same: cops can be wrong.

    If the Trooper writes you a ticket for something that you didn't do wrong, then you have the right to defend yourself in front of Judge, who's job it is to interpret the law.
     
  5. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    Your not going to argue it because you have no argument.

    To think that GAWR (automatically) sets GVWR is just plain stupid. First or second hand.
     
  6. Duffster

    Duffster LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
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    I would think a lawyer would be better. :rolleyes:
     
  7. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I love these arguments,

    From the page of the NEW YORK STATE DMV on COMMERCIAL DRIVERS LICENSE


    Class B CDL

    GVWR of more than 26,000lbs. (Class B may tow vehicles with a GVWR or 10,000lbs or less, or may tow a vehcile of more than 10,000lbs providing the GCWR is not more than 26,000lbs)


    No interstate commerce.


    So with a class B you can be less than 36k. You need a class A if the trailer would be over 10k where the GCWR is over 26k. Doesnt make a lot of sense but its there in black and white and here is the link if you'd like to refute (page 2). Again NYS only.

    http://dmv.ny.gov/broch/cdl/cdl10sec01.pdf
     
  8. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    A "Class B" is almost useless if you are working in the construction field, unless you are never towing a trailer. Like maybe for a crane operator, delivering construction materials, concrete truck, running a dump truck for a gravel pit where you would never tow anything.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  9. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I saw you erased the other part of what you were saying, why? Yes the Class B seems useless.
     
  10. ParkWelding

    ParkWelding LawnSite Member
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    Because my fingers typed faster than my brain computed what you wrote.
     

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