collecting unemployment

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Christianstine, Jan 27, 2003.

  1. dougaustreim

    dougaustreim LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 488

    Collecting unemployment from yourself raises a lot of red flags. First of all, there are probably only a few states that you could even find a legal way to do it.

    More importantly, in the long run, you will be paying it back yourself anyway. Rates are based on how much you pay in and how much is drawn against you. Over a period of time, if you stay in business you will pay in as much or usually more than is drawn against you.

    Theres an old saying NO FREE LUNCH


    Doug
    Austreim Landscaping
     
  2. bruces

    bruces LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 648

    Ask your state unemployment office. Give them the facts and get a correct answer for your state.

    Laws vary by state, but in Missouri I have never seen an owner collect unemployment while the company is still in business.
     
  3. f350

    f350 Banned
    from mi
    Posts: 424

    i had a few moments of free time this morning, so i called.. they see no problem with it as long as it's not a sole prop.. her exact words were " the company pays in to it and we pay out to the employee " and thats what you are. if you have a problem getting through to the u/a 800 number let me know. i have a back-door number..
     
  4. dougaustreim

    dougaustreim LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 488

    As an owner/employee attempting to draw unemployment, the main test would be whether or not your were participating in the business during the time you are collecting. Even though you are not servicing and billing customers, if you are marketing etc you are participating in the business and would be considered working. Even participating on this forum would be interpreted as working in my state.

    Doug
    Austreim landscaping
     
  5. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

    OK,

    Here is my thought. I know I am going to catch some flack, well bring it on.

    I have no problem with someone collecting unemployment. Who has lost their job, and is looking for a job.

    However if you business isn't making you enough money in the off season, and you want to sit around a collect? My answer is no, your business doesn't make you enough to live year round. Do one of the following, if not you are Lazy IMO.

    1. Get a job for the off season.
    2. Learn how to budget.


    Geoff
     
  6. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Posts: 4,771

    One of the requirements for collecting UI is that you are currently looking for a job, so if you honestly are, then I think it would be ok. It's all about business ethics.

    MATT
     
  7. Christianstine

    Christianstine LawnSite Member
    Posts: 28

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  8. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,020

    lets say you can do it. doesn't make it right.

    change that. higher prices, flat rates, new services, etc. offset the downtime. don't expect a bailout.

    IMO they should. this idea of a seasonal wrker going on EI every winter is ridiculous. breeds laziness. is a real prob in some regions in canada. too much of a safety net.

    unemployment should be used by people who want to work, but are unable to secure employment at a particular time. not by people who choose not to work. or by people who choose a seasonal industry.
     
  9. GeoffDiamond

    GeoffDiamond LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
    Posts: 1,651

    Again.

    This is your biz's problem, you figure it out. My taxes shouldn't pay you to wait till work comes around.

    Here are more things you can do, not great but you can do them:

    1. Wally World
    2. BK
    3. McD's
    4. Any other retailer.

    Geoff
     
  10. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,020

    shouldn't, i assume you meant.
     

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