I think that is like 45 miles from me lol! It might be a little to far but that would be an option. I would rather get an associate degree than just a certificate. Don't know if it means anymore. I was also looking at the gateway tech school program for horticultere/landscaping. Yeah i agree with you 100%. Working for someone else 9 times out of 10 sucks! You still have a shop in Waukesha? how much you paying for rent you should post some pics!