Commercial 30 or 36 Walk-Behind

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by JonesLawnCareWV, May 9, 2014.

  1. echo

    echo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    How do you pull your trailer?
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  2. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
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    GMC Envoy. SUV. Loaded. Leather interior, perfectly clean carpets. I've already done more damage to the cargo area of that thing than I wanted to. I used to have a single cab Chevy colorado, but I couldn't stand taking my 2 y/o son anywhere in it. Needed something that had a back seat, and couldn't find any trucks that werent 150k+ miles, rusted to pieces, or weren't going to break the bank after the truck trade-in.
     
  3. echo

    echo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Put the seats down, put a tarp in it and put the stuff in there. You learn to make due with what you have until you become more successful and get what you need to upgrade. You either want it bad enough and sacrifice to be successful or you don't.
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  4. TPendagast

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    No.

    Pulling a 180 lb mower around backwards IS NOT easier than pulling a 470 lb (what a scag 36 belt weighs) mower with reverse assist around.

    1) you can slap the gears around with your knee.
    2) you most go forward under DUAL wheel power anyway
    3) the wheels are much bigger and filled with air and therefor the effort and control are entirely different
    4) slight squeeze on the controls puts the whole thing in neutral and you give it a bit of a tug and it's backed up or changed directions.

    Only really need reverse assist if it's facing down hill and you need to back up.

    The difference between a 36 belt and a 'push mower' is you actually have to learn how to use the 36 properly.
    Yes, I hear the fact you have used a ferris belt drive before, but your statements you make reveal that you never actually were taught HOW to operate it.
    Mostly, you set a speed you are going to go, and then never touch the gears again, Unless you are needing reverse assist (what maybe once a day) or are transitioning to/from wide open cutting and close in detail, and even then it's a slap of the knee.

    Sure for thousands more the hydro is better. for even more thousands the floating deck is better.

    But once you are comparing 6000 bucks to 2000 bucks you can't say "The $3800 machine is terrible, because it won't do what the $6000 machine will do, but I will consider a $2000 machine that won't do half the work the $3800 machine will do"

    That logic is oddly confusing.

    IF you want to mow lawns and you want to have all your options open to you, in every aspect…yes… a 36 inch, floating deck hydro is the best.
    IS it worth 3 times the price?
    Without a doubt, EASILY yes.

    It it worth spending a little more than your allotted budget.
    Again with out a doubt yes.

    But you could get inside your budget with a fixed deck 36" hydro.
    And learn the height adjustment system… or spend maybe… 1500 more to get a floater.

    DO NOT buy an Exmark walk behind however, because they are 20% more expensive than other brands…..

    Ive owned hydro walk behinds for over ten years and never needed any dealer service… I wouldn't spend outside your budget just because a dealer is closer to you… who says that guy is in business a few years from now?

    Im in Alaska. My Ferris Dealer is in Minnesota.
    Hasn't caused me any serious issues. My Ferris Evos are in their third season.
     
  5. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
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    Realistically, I could go buy a new trailer monday if I decided to get the walkbehind. But I'd definitely be pinching pennies for awhile. My fiancee, son, and I live with my parents (make all the jokes you want). I pay for our groceries and other things we need (toiletries, etc) since we don't pay any sort of rent or anything to stay with my parents. I'd just hate to pull the trigger on the trailer, be low on funds for awhile, and run the risk of having some ungodly expense to cover (say if my envoy broke down or something of that sort).
     
  6. TPendagast

    TPendagast LawnSite Fanatic
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    Pistol grips on the belt drives weren't as bad as the pistol grips on the early hydros. springs were heavier and the throw/distance on the squeeze longer.

    The Ferris DD is the way to go,

    with that in mind snapper sw20 being cheaper is a great option especially if there is a snapper dealer closer than the ferris.

    Im not understanding the load/unload issues.
    30" still needs a damn ramp unless you want to dead lift 180 lbs twice per lawn???
     
  7. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
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  8. JonesLawnCareWV

    JonesLawnCareWV LawnSite Senior Member
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    If you have come to believe thats the sort of comparison that I'm making, I think you've taken what I've said out of context.

    Wouldn't be a dead lift. Prop the front wheels up, then lift the back. Use of a fulcrum reduces work required. Wouldn't be anywhere near a 180lb dead lift.


    I do appreciate the information/suggestions though
     
  9. echo

    echo LawnSite Bronze Member
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    No offense but if I were you I'd buy the cheapest most reliable mower you can find. After reading your posts, IMO there's way much thinking and way too many excuses for you to be in this business for the long run. Good luck.
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  10. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Silver Member
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    My personal opinion dealing with WV hills day in and out.... a 36" hydro... NOT a belt drive.
     

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